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[Skyrunner]

Wyvern is okay because why not.

I think I'll make another Succubus, and this time go for a bard route, instead of sorc as Nieve. Is that OK with Araph?

Also, can I take the Outsider Naturalization feat for free?(All it does is my subtype is changed from Extraplanar to Native, preventing me from being Banished, Dismissed or other unsavory things.)

Go the bard route? How? You don't have any levels to spend after LA. The feat is okay, though.

Why of course by leveling up, Araph.

[Araph]

Wyvern is okay because why not.

I think I'll make another Succubus, and this time go for a bard route, instead of sorc as Nieve. Is that OK with Araph?

Also, can I take the Outsider Naturalization feat for free?(All it does is my subtype is changed from Extraplanar to Native, preventing me from being Banished, Dismissed or other unsavory things.)

Go the bard route? How? You don't have any levels to spend after LA. The feat is okay, though.

Why of course by leveling up, Araph.

Well, that explains that.

[Skyrunner]

...You are planning on letting us level,...right?

Also, when will we start? :3

[Doomblade187]

Just a few things-

One, a request for Araph: will you let me use weapon finesse on Kukri, or should I just use daggers? I'm planning on dual-wielding one of the two.

Second, another question for Araph: does the feat "throat punch", from Complete Scoundrel (pg 82), work on Succubi, and would you let me take it without improved unarmed strike? (I can take improved unarmed strike, it's just a matter of which feats I take)

[Skyrunner]

... Why are you trying to prepare to killdisable me? o_o

But I'd say it works fine on demons (they have a neck, especially when in humanoid form). Not that I'm the DM. <.<

Here's the text:

Throat Punch [Am bush]
By making a precise punch to the throat, you can render
a target unable to speak effectively.
Prerequisite: Improved Unarmed Strike, sneak attack
+3d6.
Benefit: Your successful sneak attack delivered with an
unarmed strike temporarily hinders the target’s ability to
speak. For the next 3 rounds, the target takes a –5 penalty
on any skill check requiring speech and has a 50% chance
of failure when casting a spell with a verbal component or
activating a magic item with a command word. Multiple uses
of this feat don’t increase the duration beyond 3 rounds.
Using this feat reduces your sneak attack damage by
2d6.
Special: You must be able to reach your foe’s neck to
use this feat.

[Doomblade187]

... Why are you trying to prepare to killdisable me? o_o

Suggestion at will with a DC that I have to roll a 20 on to save against. It would be helpful not to have to deal with that.

[Skyrunner]

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Question one : how would you identify <insert character name here> as a succubus?
Question two : even if you did, how would you justify throat-punching said succubus if she has been quite helpful and un-chaotic-evil-like 'til then?
Question three : Why would you even suspect that <icnh> is a succubus? o_o
Question four : Meta-game-wise, why would I do that?

[Doomblade187]

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Question one : how would you identify <insert character name here> as a succubus?
Question two : even if you did, how would you justify throat-punching said succubus if she has been quite helpful and un-chaotic-evil-like 'til then?
Question three : Why would you even suspect that <icnh> is a succubus? o_o
Question four : Meta-game-wise, why would I do that?

Yeah, I know I'm metagaming a bit here. I was just going off of Nieve, honestly, and I may not take the feat anyways, as I have better uses for the feat slot. And yes, alliances are welcome. I can see you not doing that exactly so that you don't have to deal with an enemy, and instead have them as an ally, for however long is needed. Honestly, the question was more of a "could I do this?" wondering anyways.

And yes, you're right, I probably couldn't tell that a random person was a succubus unless I had some sort of spell. I did kind of forget that...

[Skyrunner]

Yeah, an unarmed sneak attack punch that has a 50% chance of making verbal spells fail has rather limited use >.>

[Doomblade187]

I'm assuming that the starting gold is 9000, going off of WBL.

Also Araph, is weapon finesse for kukri fine?

[Azthor]

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Question one : how would you identify <insert character name here> as a succubus?
Question two : even if you did, how would you justify throat-punching said succubus if she has been quite helpful and un-chaotic-evil-like 'til then?
Question three : Why would you even suspect that <icnh> is a succubus? o_o
Question four : Meta-game-wise, why would I do that?

Yeah, I know I'm metagaming a bit here. I was just going off of Nieve, honestly, and I may not take the feat anyways, as I have better uses for the feat slot. And yes, alliances are welcome. I can see you not doing that exactly so that you don't have to deal with an enemy, and instead have them as an ally, for however long is needed. Honestly, the question was more of a "could I do this?" wondering anyways.

And yes, you're right, I probably couldn't tell that a random person was a succubus unless I had some sort of spell. I did kind of forget that...

You can identify any outsider if you have enough ranks in knowledge (the planes).

[Skyrunner]

Not when they've assumed a human guise. Shapeshifting much? O_o It's kinda the whole point.


EDIT: As long as others aren't suspicious, I can keep up the disguise w/o opposing Spot checks. The +10 to Disguise, and -2 for being a different race should cover it.

[Azthor]

Not when they've assumed a human guise. Shapeshifting much? O_o It's kinda the whole point.


EDIT: As long as others aren't suspicious, I can keep up the disguise w/o opposing Spot checks. The +10 to Disguise, and -2 for being a different race should cover it.

Alternatively, he may recognize you instantly if using Truesight for any other purpose. Also, everyone knows that it is the Lawful Stupid characters' duty to smite evil, no matter how or where. As long as your alignment is Evil, all Lawful Good characters can justify bringing divine justice upon you, specially so paladins, who could become fighters without bonus feats merely be associating with you.

[Skyrunner]

Paladins don't get Truesight o_o... So if a wizard (at like lv11) says I'm a succubus, I suppose I could use Suggestion or something else to 'convince' everyone and or the wizard that he's seeing things.

The paladin code as it is is rather stupid, imo. It encourages more of the slashslashslash kill all evil durdur than the more sensible ability to attempt to convert evil. Or like Skyrim's dragon: (paraphrase)'Is it better if one is born good or expends great effort to be good?'

Paladin: Ur evil die! Slash! Slash! Slash!

[Azthor]

Paladins don't get Truesight o_o... So if a wizard (at like lv11) says I'm a succubus, I suppose I could use Suggestion or something else to 'convince' everyone and or the wizard that he's seeing things.

The paladin code as it is is rather stupid, imo. It encourages more of the slashslashslash kill all evil durdur than the more sensible ability to attempt to convert evil. Or like Skyrim's dragon: (paraphrase)'Is it better if one is born good or expends great effort to be good?'

Paladin: Ur evil die! Slash! Slash! Slash!

I thought he was going to be a cleric; clerics get Truesight as a 5th level spell, as opposed to 6th for arcane casters. Also, being a WIS based casteri, he'd stand solid chance of succeeding at the Will save.