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[10ebbor10]

do fish have acidic stomachs?

if not, then enter the fish and consume it from the insides!

Not especially acidic, but stomachs are pretty muscular and can probably crush you. Besides, assimilating is not exactly fast. It's a viable strategy, which depends mostly on getting enough ants inside, which might pose a problem.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I think attacking gills is a more simple way to get inside the fish, but yes, if eaten, acid attack from inside is a must, our fishants are not tasty, everyone should know this

But, remember we are not that small, 5cm(2 inches) long is in a small predatory fish category, we don't need to get inside, to do real damage. It's like a pack of hyenas attacking a lone lion, roughly same size difference.

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

We should probably avoid coming near the surface while the human is still there.  We probably look rather bizarre and we don't want them calling an exterminator or something.

[Mr. Palau]

Just swarm the big fishies. Not near the surface though b/c Urist is right ^.

[LordBucket]

No need to get inside the fish. Just latch on to the side. Maybe in a nook inside the gills or where a fin meets the body. It's not like they can reach around and bite us.

Just be ready to detach if we approach any cleaning stations.

[Naryar]

Yeah, let's zerg rush only one big fish.

Attack from all sides, we will probably lose a few ants as bait anyways. And if we get to the gills, there is no way the fish can attack us.

Formic acid is mostly just plain damage and pain inducing, so maybe we can drive the fish into unconsciousness with it ?

[10ebbor10]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Hunt some fish

Reasoning that being seen by the human would probably not be a good idea, you decide that attacking one of the fish would be a good idea. You finally set your eyes upon an adolescent carp, one of the larger fishes in the pond. You immediatly swarm it, aiming for it's weaker areas(gills eyes).) Your attack is only a minor suces but the large beast is unable to hurt you in any way. You then attack another time, waiting for the potion to kick in. This time you're unable to do any real damage, but the fish can't come anywhere near you either. Then the poison starts to take effect. The fish is severly weakened by the attack on it's gills, but it seems to be driven mad by the pain. Continue the attack? Or Abandon it.

Carp: [Size:20.000|HP:76/200]

((Note: I'm going to buff larger creatures in the next encounters.))

A. Attack water insects: Good source of food, might be attacked by larger fish. Try to get food: High gain, quite a large risk. Chaotic
B. Eat weeds: Low energy return.  +-Safe
C. Attack large fish. High risk, high gain
D. Look at the bottom of the pool for burrowed animals like frogs and such. (Energy intensive, might gain nothing)
E. Other

Name:  Deoxys
Biomass: 63 (59 clones(63))
Energy: 12/50 (actions cost one or more energy)
Nutrients: 25/25 (Turned into energy. Partly returned when said energy is used for actions, but not for transformations)
Abilities: DNA assimilation, splitting, Minor DNA modification (Can change size of parts, can try to modify DNA)
Current look:  Antfish (5 cm long, 1 high, 1 broad)
Status: Near a pond

Spoiler: Current form (click to show/hide)

-Chloroplasts(1)(4nutrients-->1energy per turn)
Insect eyes (Allows you to see)
Insect stomach (Can turn biomass in energy)
Ant carapace (+1 to defense)
4 * Ant acid gland (Succesfull attacks are followed up by a +4 poison attack. 10 energy and 5 Nutrients to use)
Enlarged Ant mandible (+2 to attack, -1 energy)
Fins (+1 to water movement. -5 energy)
Gills (Allows you to breath underwater. -2 energy)

Spoiler: Dna library (click to show/hide)

-Antennae
-Planttick mouth(allows you to suck nutrients and energy out of plants)
-Insect eyes
-Insect legs
-Butterfly wings
-Dragonfly wings
-Insect stomach
-Insect egg/larvae(Non splitting reproduction)
-Cocoon (Reduces risk of being eaten while changing. Extra energy cost)
-Ant mandibles
-Ant carapace (Notes,relatively light but strong)
-Ant pheromones
-Ant acid gland
-Other bits of butterfly DNA-Chloroplasts
-Fins: (+10 to water movement. -50 energy) Depends on size
-Gills  (Allows you to stay underwater. -20 energy) Depends on size
-Cell wall
-Large vacuole
-Roots
-Chloroplasts

Spoiler: GM note (click to show/hide)

You can turn energy into biomassa and vice-versa. If you wonder about animal sizes, dfwiki is your friend.

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[raptorfangamer]

keep going! keep going! we need to become the carp of yore! we need to become the LANDcarp of yore! nobody will live!

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Carps are mortal enemies of every bay12er, so KILL, KILL, KILL

[Mr. Palau]

Carps are mortal enemies of every bay12er, so KILL, KILL, KILL

[killerhellhound]

Carps are mortal enemies of every bay12er, so KILL, KILL, KILL

more death for carps though they haven't annoyed me before

[NRDL]

Carps are mortal enemies of every bay12er, so KILL, KILL, KILL

[Naryar]

Let's kill the carp ! I was a 40d player a few years ago... and I know the pain !

Besides, it would be ridiculous to waste the attack we just did.  Even if we lose a few clones, we will gain much more that we will loss, I think.

Also, if we don't kill it we will not be able to mutate into some awesome land carp demon of death.

I suggest we take the form of a giant carp later.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Let's kill the carp ! I was a 40d player a few years ago... and I know the pain !

Besides, it would be ridiculous to waste the attack we just did.  Even if we lose a few clones, we will gain much more that we will loss, I think.

Also, if we don't kill it we will not be able to mutate into some awesome land carp demon of death.

I suggest we take the form of a giant carp later.

Carp has more than 5*our total biomass. Even if we lose every clone but one, this is a good hunt, even without DNA gains

[Deny]

KILL THE CARP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS NOT OVERKILL