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[Mr. Palau]

Can we incorperate cell walls into the ant carapace?

[Phantom of The Library]

Would it be possible to have one of the clones assume a plant-like form and harvest and store energy and nutrients while a couple others guard it and we do our own stuff?

[10ebbor10]

Can we incorperate cell walls into the ant carapace?

Technically yes. It'll probably give problems with moving around( Something which plants aren't renowed for).

Would it be possible to have one of the clones assume a plant-like form and harvest and store energy and nutrients while a couple others guard it and we do our own stuff?

Yes.

[Mr. Palau]

But the cell walls would increase the structural integrity of the carapace, and thus make it stronger, or no?

Try to develop ant glands, so we can confuse them. We should be able to do this pretty well given the amount of ants we have absorbed.

[10ebbor10]

But the cell walls would increase the structural integrity of the carapace, and thus make it stronger, or no?

Try to develop ant glands, so we can confuse them. We should be able to do this pretty well given the amount of ants we have absorbed.

Yes. It will decrease flexibility.

Are you talking about pheromone or acid glands? Probably pheromones. Also, this is not a surefire way to infiltrate the colony, after all, they might just think your are ants for another, rival, colony.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Why are you so obsessed with conquering ants? We have better targets, small mammals, lizards, worms... It's time to get out of insect form

I propose to change ourself in a big and nasty ant, while smaller clones will work as gatherers\workers\guards\scouts

So, megaant :
volume 340 (merge 17 clones)
________
Chloroplasts * 4
Enlarged Mandible
Enlarged Carapace
Enlarged Insect legs
Ant acid glands * 5
Ant pheromones (for controling clones)
Enlarged Planttick mouth
Enlarged Insect stomach
_________

After transformation go and eat plants and anything to slow to run from us, simply for ammasing energy and biomass. Clones should stay close and do the same OMNOMNOMOMing

[Mr. Palau]

Why are you so obsessed with conquering ants? We have better targets, small mammals, lizards, worms... It's time to get out of insect form

Because the amount of biomass in that ant hive is easilly equal to the amount of biomass in a dog or a cat.

That transformation would take a lot of energy, we would have to merge all the ants, combine our parts, enlarge the parts, modify the DNA.

Develop the ant's pheromone glands, and modify the stinger and acid glads to be able to propel pheromones onto the other ants. Use this new found power to spray all the hive's ants with pheromones identifying them as enemies. Also try to produce this colony's pheromones so the ants will not attack us.

[Mr. Palau]

Why are you so obsessed with conquering ants? We have better targets, small mammals, lizards, worms... It's time to get out of insect form

Because the amount of biomass in that ant hive is easilly equal to the amount of biomass in a dog or a cat.

depends on the colony's size.

True, but the combined bio mass of the ant hive is still greater than anything we could kill if all that biomass was combined in one organsims that I could conveintly reference.

[Naryar]

It could be worth it to turn into some carnivorous plant, so we can do both autotrophy and heterotrophy. While we would get biomass slower and develop slower, life as a plant is generally less dangerous. Also it would attract less attention from humans.

Also, our super evolution power would permit us to adapt quickly to most herbivores. And we would absorb plants easily, and conquer a whole ecosystem. Insect attacks us ? Exsude formic acid, that will probably act as a repellant or even kill the insect => gratuitous . Large carnivore attacks us ? Include formic acid in vacuoles, part of the plant eaten, but herbivore will be attacked and therefore learns to not eat us. Maybe we could add tanins and various alkaloids to be even more improper to eat.

Or we could also go the internal parasitic amoeba way. Could be fun, even more stealthy than the plant way.

Sure all of these are not as glamorous as the Kajiu way (aka giant leviathan or whatever huge monster you find), but the problem with leviathan is the ridiculous quantity of food needed, and that humans can kill us quite easily. Nuclear weapons, you know.

[ComradeGafarov]

We must find FISH to eat, so that we may become LEVIATHAN.

[Unholy_Pariah]

We must find FISH to eat, so that we may become LEVIATHAN.

Find FISH
Eat FISH
Become FISH

then you know spread to every corner of the globe merge into several leviathans and go nuts on Tokyo, New York, Roswell etc. etc.

[LordBucket]

Forget the ants.

Go eat some plants. Get bigger. Once we're the size of a tennis ball, shift to an amoeboid form and if we still want ants we can roll over the top of them and absorb them without any difficulty.

...actually, do this:

1) Eat plants. Learn DNA required to convert soil into biomass.
2) Find moist ground. Burrow and eat.
3) Grow as big as we want. Say...about 10 feet across.
4) Divide into many.
5) Find ocean, rendezvous with our myriad selves.

Alternately, if we want an early game over, burrow deep underground and convert the entire planet into grey goo. We can absorb the living stuff last.

[killerhellhound]

Internal parasitic amoeba way ftw and we could change into anything else(eg infect alot of fish conbine them LEVIATHAN attack on city if killed we could start agian from a few infected ) or start a zombie plage. The amount of things we could do

[10ebbor10]

Spoiler: Orders (click to show/hide)

Winning vote= Fishing.

You try to move away from the ants and towards the pond. Sadly you run into a patrol of ants. Luckly there are only twelve of them and 67 of you, so you eat them and convert them to make more clones. With renewed vigour you try and find the pond, and this time you succeed. Deciding on the fact that you want to capture an animal several time larger then you, you come up with a plan. Several of the ants, grab each other legs, and then move onto the reeds, the lowest and carrying a small berry you found, and functioning as a living fishing rod.

A small fish grabs the bait. The ants react fast, and through the liberative use of the reeds and their strong chain manage to lure the small guppy towards the shore. The battle is brief, as the ants overwhelm and drag the poor things onto the surfaces. Now what are you going to do with the body?

Guppy body: 1800 biomass
((You guys actually won, you faced way worse odds then when fighting the ants, and actually won.))

Name:  Deoxys
Biomass: 20( Clones:20*79)
Energy: 7/15 (actions cost one or more energy)
Nutrients:3/5 (Turned into energy. Partly returned when said energy is used for actions, but not for transformations)
Abilities: DNA assimilation, splitting, Minor DNA modification (Can change size of parts, can try to modify DNA)
Current look: Miniature group of ants (2 cm each)
Status:Near ant mound, not noticed. Yet.

Spoiler: Current form (click to show/hide)

-Chloroplasts(1)(4nutrients-->1energy per turn) You can have more chloroplasts.
-Mandible(+1 attack)
-Carapace(+1 defense)
-Insect legs(1 energy= +1 to move)

Spoiler: Dna library (click to show/hide)

-Antennae
-Planttick mouth(allows you to suck nutrients and energy out of plants)
-Insect eyes
-Insect legs
-Butterfly wings
-Dragonfly wings
-Insect stomach
-Ant mandibles
-Ant carapace (Notes,relatively light but strong)
-Ant pheromones
-Ant acid gland
-Other bits of butterfly DNA-Chloroplasts
-Cell wall
-Large vacuole
-Roots
-Chloroplasts

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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Eat, consume DNAs, merge all clones in one glob, then, after we get info about what DNA we have, decide what form(s) to take