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[Reudh]

I eat animals. I hold no guilt over eating animals. I would not hesitate to kill the animals I eat if I made to do so.

But I am not for being cruel to them, and that is cruelty. It is banned here in Britain, and with good reason.

Yup. Same here. Foix gras is pretty fuckin' cruel as far as animal foodstuffs go.

[Caz]

Naah, probably the most important one: The best shot at effectively eliminating the stuff is exposing it as snob food - food that is only eaten to show status.

...Doesn't that make it more desirable to eat?

[Knit tie]

Naah, probably the most important one: The best shot at effectively eliminating the stuff is exposing it as snob food - food that is only eaten to show status.

...Doesn't that make it more desirable to eat?

It does, especially in Russia in particular and Eastern Europe in general. Veblen goods all the way.

[Osmosis Jones]

Regarding foie gras; it may not be as bad as you think. I'd hazard, like anything, it depends on the supplier.

[Helgoland]

Naah, probably the most important one: The best shot at effectively eliminating the stuff is exposing it as snob food - food that is only eaten to show status.

...Doesn't that make it more desirable to eat?

Yes, in principle, but only as long as it's not widely known! The goal would be to make it a food of the nouveau riche, and then watching it die slowly as even lotto winners pick up on its now-bad reputation.

[timferius]

So no one has had Waleye fish before?

I've had Walleye once before, my brother caught it. Was pretty descent fish, been a while though. I believe we grilled it, not fried.
Fun fact, I thought they were a type of bass, but are actually of the perch family. The more you know!
Edit:
Actually... now that I think about it, it may have been a large-mouth... I'll have to chat with my brother and see if he remembers...

[Arx]

I am eating cheap polony sandwiches. You can taste the flour and there are bits of grit.

Living the high life.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

So no one has had Waleye fish before?

I've had Walleye once before, my brother caught it. Was pretty descent fish, been a while though. I believe we grilled it, not fried.
Fun fact, I thought they were a type of bass, but are actually of the perch family. The more you know!
Edit:
Actually... now that I think about it, it may have been a large-mouth... I'll have to chat with my brother and see if he remembers...

Was it caught in the Great Lakes?
That's where my grandfather and I go fishing for it.
Everytime I go up to see him we take his fishing boat to go catch a few of those then bring em back cut em up and frie them
So delicious *^* my grandfather always knows where to get fresh meat if he doesn't get it himself and it's the best

[timferius]

Nah, I grew up a bit too far from the lakes to ever go fishing there, it was caught in a small lake in Eastern Ontario somewhere. We have so many I can't remember which one.

[Zangi]

Regarding foie gras; it may not be as bad as you think. I'd hazard, like anything, it depends on the supplier.

Yea, the 2 producers left in America-New York are not the factory type farms that the opponents are showcasing.  All the picture and video examples of mistreatment are not from the farms in America.    Pretty old too...

[smeeprocket]

Regarding foie gras; it may not be as bad as you think. I'd hazard, like anything, it depends on the supplier.

I think most people can agree that force feeding an animal until their liver is almost to a bursting point is flat out cruel.

It is, yes, as bad as at least I think.

It's like the term humanely-raised veal. It's an oxymoron.

But yea, people eat fois grais for status and those people are still wearing fur coats, which I thought was relegated to areas with brutal winters, only. But nope, people will just wear fur coats just because.

[Sheb]

Regarding foie gras; it may not be as bad as you think. I'd hazard, like anything, it depends on the supplier.

That article is... less than perfect. For example, it claims making foie gras drop food in the duck's crop. Well, apparently to that scientific paper the article itself cite, duck don't have a crop, and neither do geese. It also cite that paper that tell that after stopping force-feeding, the geese's liver returned to normal, but fails to cite the part of the paper where they say that force-fed geese and ducks dies at 10 time the rate of non-force-fed geese and duck.

[Zangi]

*snip*
but fails to cite the part of the paper where they say that force-fed geese and ducks dies at 10 time the rate of non-force-fed geese and duck.

I'd figure the death rate is 100%... >.>

Seriously though, is that 10x death rate from a factory farm or from one of the Murrican ones?

[Sheb]

Well, the numbers come from that EU report. The mortality rate varies greatly, but the best units get an average of 1.7% during the two week of force-feeding, versus an average of 0.2% for non-force-feeding fattening. 

[Knit tie]

Well, the numbers come from that EU report. The mortality rate varies greatly, but the best units get an average of 1.7% during the two week of force-feeding, versus an average of 0.2% for non-force-feeding fattening.

The mortality depends on a whole slew of factors, not the least of which being the sanitary conditions: if you shove a dirty tube into a duck's throat, the duck may get an infection and die. I'd say that a more thorough investigation of foie gras factories is needed.