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[Caellath]

Oh wow, we need the GM's help on this. I guess we can't add more people to my ship since adwarf's Shade will need his own crew. So I guess Zako and the remainder of the people would end up in his frigate.

Edit: By the way, when we reach the Blackmarket, I better start giving proper functions to the ship's PC personnel. At least basing on the GM's ones, I guess. Raelin will still be helmswoman, though. And for Arrod, I guess he'll be properly named Tactical Officer.

[adwarf]

Well my ship can only house 10 people, maybe less once I mess around with it to make the thing smaller.

[Caellath]

Well my ship can only house 10 people, maybe less once I mess around with it to make the thing smaller.

Won't its cost be lower than the 25.000 credits budget then? Pocket money?

[adwarf]

It has an artifact weapon built into so it may actually barely scrap past it.

[Zako]

Protip: lasers do not need reloading or extra money to buy ammo and give a nice comprimise between firepower and power cost.

Also, the godsplitter and the haymaker badly need guns of some sort.

[Caellath]

Also, the godsplitter and the haymaker badly need guns of some sort.

Not necessarily. I'm getting the Treasury to be a fire support ship, and missiles generally deliver a bigger punch in less time than lasers. The Godsplitter is a frigate which can destroy much larger ships if it sends all its missiles on a target.

Especially with my latest explosive invention, the missile with a fighter's shield, which can phase through the enemies' shields.

As for the fighter, there is the problem of size. A good laser weapon needs some reasonable size, while a good missile battery on a fighter takes way less space.

Accepting ship models to build, though. I plan on creating a fleet, and any ideas can be implanted and built as I get enough credits. Weaponry can also be used, bonus points if you adapt it to one of the ships sheet, since I'm considering abandoning some almost useless features of the Godsplitter.

[Zako]

But then there is a key problem: what do you do when you have run out of missiles? Lasers don't run out of ammo, and you can always have them as backup weapons.

[adwarf]

But then there is a key problem: what do you do when you have run out of missiles? Lasers don't run out of ammo, and you can always have them as backup weapons.

If you have no missiles, and no weapons you resort to plan B, ram them.

[Caellath]

But then there is a key problem: what do you do when you have run out of missiles? Lasers don't run out of ammo, and you can always have them as backup weapons.

Yeah, I thought about it. That's why I have a fairly large reserve on the Treasury, and I just cross my fingers and hope I don't face swarms of enemies and the missiles do their job just right. It is severely flawed, but it is the start of the game, and as I already said, the Treasury was actually created to hold a large laser cannon as soon as I'm able to actually able to buy and install the thing. I would also need enormous amount of cooling, those lasers create a crapload of heat.

[adwarf]

Don't worry my ship is basically a Space Station Destroyer, I haz all the Dakka :3

[Zako]

But those missiles are all the way on the other ship and not with your launchers. If you have heating problems, then you can always try getting more heat dispersal equipment or try using ballistic weapons.

[Tiruin]

You both know that, in space there is no gravity to stop propulsion right?

So every ordnance of DAKKA shall be speeding their merry way even when missing right?

Guided missiles = better. Unless you can make guided bullets. 

[Caellath]

You both know that, in space there is no gravity to stop propulsion right?

So every ordnance of DAKKA shall be speeding their merry way even when missing right?

Guided missiles = better. Unless you can make guided bullets. 

Yep, Tiruin is kind of right. Even as they miss, missiles can have their trajectories corrected, and even though they have to soak up PD fire and enemy laser ordnances, they are more accurate and my latest missile version can simply ignore shields altogether.

Also adwarf, could you post your ship's (preliminary?) model already?

Edit: Hitting the hay. See you later people.

[Zako]

Missiles can also have their targeting systems jammed or tricked, or be shot down in flight. But if you want to rely just on them, then ok, but I still think that we should have some kind of non missile based weapons, just in case.

[adwarf]

I haven't got it completed yet, but here is what I have so far, its coming along better then I thought it would, but I still need to work out several more weapons, and maybe up its size slightly.

Spoiler: Night Fury (click to show/hide)

Ship Length: 200; Ship Size: 440
Prow Section
Deck 1 Prow Section: 125
Deck 2 Prow Section: 150
Aft Section
Deck 1 Aft Section: 75
Deck 2 Aft Section: 90

Deck Cost = 2500 + 400 (Deck 1 Light Armor) + 480 (Deck 2 Light Armor) = 3380 Credits

Prow Deck 1 Section: Structural Health = 13, Light Armor (20 HP)
Aft Deck 1 Section: Structural Health = 8, Light Armor (20 HP)

Prow Deck 2 Section: Structural Health = 15, Light Armor (20 HP)
Aft Deck 2 Section: Structural Health = 9, Light Armor (20 HP)

Power Generator: Size 20 Fusion Generator
Price: 1200
Power Output: 100 - 1000
Heat Output: 2
Fuel Required: 0.5
Reactivation Speed: Instant
Reactivating the fusion reactor after shutdown costs 50*size energy

2 Size 10 Batteries
Price: 100 Each (200 Total)
Storage Capacity: 1000 Each

Size 10 Liquid Cooling System
Price: 25
Heat Output: -100
Resource Used: 1
Note: external but retractable stucture. Non functional when retracted, does not benefit from armor bonuses when extended.

Size 20 Life Support
Price: 100
Energy Use: 40
Crew Support: 10

Size 30 Conventional Engines
Price: 150
Energy Use: 150
Max Speed Change: +- 15

4 Size 10 Boosters
Price: 40 Total (10 Each)
Max Speed Change: +20 Each
Capacity: 100
Theoretical Max: 100
Other: Destroyed Upon Use

Size 20 Jump Drive
Price: 1000
Energy Use: 600
Charge Speed: 120 Energy
Capacity: 500

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Ship Cost: 6095
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Armaments:
3 Laser Defense Turrets
Price: 750 Total
Size: 5 Each
Energy Consumption: 20 Each
Damage: 1D6 (Shield and Armor)
Hit Chance: Certain

Hellfire Cannon - A weapon from a war that has long since faded from the annuals of even the great Librarians of Knowledge, this weapon was found deep in the scrap fields of a long forgotten war, this massive weapon consists of a solid coil built into the lower parts of the Night Fury. Connected to the coil is a massive munitions chamber that feeds large solid shells into the coil below which is rapidly fed power to magnetize the coil, and launch the shell forward at near light speed. Of course the sheer size, and power of this weapon means that its use is only a last resort.

Shields:
Size 40 Shield Generator
Price: 600
Energy Consumption: 200
Shield Cap: 40
Shield Regen: 8

Other:
Size 30 Exhaust Hatch
Price: 15
Effects: Allows you to construct internal engines up to twice the size of the exhaust hatch.

Size 20 Passive Radar
Price: 100
Energy Use: 20
Targetting Distance: 100

Size 80 Internal Weapon Battery (Houses the Hellfire Cannon)
Price: 80
Effects: Allows the construction of ship vs ship weapons inside the ship. Max weapon size while retaining full accuracy= 1/2 Internal weapon battery size.

Total Space Taken Up By Systems, and Such: 330, Free Space 110

Final Cost: 7640

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:Weapon Placement:
Prow Deck 1 Segment
   ----------------------   
1 Laser Defense Turret

Aft Deck 1 Segment
   -------------------   
2 Laser Defense Turrets

Deck 2 Spinal Mounted
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Hellfire Cannon