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[Cellmonk]

I thought I'd make a post on how much Toady seems to be getting done, and how awesome it is.

I haven't been on the forum all that long, but I've been on a while. the last few releases seem to be both major and effective. Its as if a Rubix Cube has entered its second layer.

The cities and improved world gen made adventure mode simply delightful, and increased its complexity and challenge immensely.

The vampires and necromancers etc opened up many possibilities for modders, and people who like to make messes (such as I). The update also made terrifying biomes terrifying again, which is a bonus.

The clothing fix made an entire industry useful again, while improving fps (possibly), and not having naked dwarves running around in an otherwise prosperous fortress is another bonus. 

Finally, the minecarts and upcoming hauling improvements will allow for more creative approaches to industry, and warfare. Its great to have a more deadly and rewarding aspect to goods production. These additions also help us suspend disbelief more effectively, and think more highly of our dwarves (I lose my respect for the legendary weapon-smith when I see him make several trips for some seeds.)

The hauling improvements also allow for a more straightforward reclaim, as the cleanup of scattered goods can actually be efficient. Reclaim has been a major component of this game since its beginning, and improving hauling in this manner makes reclaim more rewarding, and less frustrating.

Good going, Tarn, and keep it up!

[FallingWhale]

Not a suggestion.
There are other places for this.

[Cellmonk]

Alright, i had a feeling it was a bad place to put it. where should I move it to?

Edit: how do I move a topic again? i know I've done this before...

[Cellmonk]

I can't seem to find a way to move this topic, so I guess I'll change it into a suggestion. Let me see how to do that.

EDIT: never mind. moving is probably a better idea.

EDIT2: Here's a part of that essay I was writing in an attempt to not waste a post, anyways:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

At its core, dwarf fortress seems to have aimed towards both emergent behavior and emergent game play. Toady tells us that he aims for the near complete procedural generation of the world, and a myriad of creative ways to interact with it. That means subtle yet interesting variation among races and civilizations, as well as creatures, put in such that the gamer must be careful and creative in their approach to problems (eg forgotten beasts), yet also capable to shaping the history of their fortress how they wish, within reason.

I tend to rate features, and suggestions, based on the degree of micromanagement it requires, the degree of micromanagement which is optional, the degree to which it facilitates emergence and emergent gameplay, and the degree to which it facilitates suspension of disbelief. The degree to which it allows mod builders to tinker with the game is also of importance.

Emergent game-play: when decisions one makes can effect us in the long term, and those decisions interact to a certain degree out of the player's control. So if we kill a vampire, maybe his family is sad, and wants to kill they guy who pointed out he was a vampire, or the executioner, or even the mayor. Currently, a long hallway may mean slow wood hauling in the short term, but reduced security and design flexibility in the long term. When there are many instances of this, and when they can interact, new problems emerge from old ones, and they seem relevant to the player (rather than "rawr, random annual beast of the deep, close the gate.")

A good suggestion allows for this. For instance, diseases is a good suggestion and/or feature if it includes a means of avoiding its spread (but not to easily!), with a squad of good doctors say, and a room to put infected in. It is a good feature if it is disturbing enough, and if it isn't completely random. (crowded hallways led to this! migrant filth led to this! bad living conditions for the chickens led to this!)

[peskyninja]

There should be a "move" buton in the same bar as the "reply" one is. Try moving it to the general discussion board.

[Cellmonk]

There should be a "move" buton in the same bar as the "reply" one is. Try moving it to the general discussion board.

Thanks! I've been on this forum for a while, but I've never gotten used to its functions, nor grasped its normative behavior.

that's probably not a good thing, seeing the the loose standards for normative behavior that exist...