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Bluehotdog5

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Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« on: April 12, 2012, 05:19:08 pm »

There's a hungry Yak wandering around in my soon-to-be dining room (it's basically a large empty room at the moment), and I would like to butcher it. However, if it's killed in the dining room won't that be off-putting to the Dwarves? If I wait too long it'll die of starvation, as i haven't yet figured out how to actually feed the animals.

I have all the rooms dug out around it, so I can't really dig an area for it to walk into. I have the feeling it'll end up dying in my dining room one way or another. I had no idea a yak could even walk down an entire flight of stairs anyway.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 05:21:23 pm »

Use To set up some pastures up on the surfuse that should keep it from it starving.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 05:22:30 pm »

butchering it wont traumatize your dwarves because it will be butchered in the butcher workshop.  To feed it make a pasture, to butcher it use v to select it, then hit p, then y.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 05:24:17 pm »

Use To set up some pastures up on the surfuse that should keep it from it starving.
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Use "I" to set up some pastures. They need to be large - larger than you'd expect. They have to cover grass or cave moss. And then... your yak can eat. Although, if I remember correctly, yaks starve eventually - a bit of a glitch. But you can keep it alive for a while either way, and if I'm wrong - you've got a well-fed yak.

Also, your dwarves will take it to the butcher's shop to butcher it. Butchering it is always good, but make sure you have food stockpiles laid out. And make sure your butcher's shop is aboveground. (unless you like miasma)
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 05:26:09 pm »

Yaks are grazers and need grass to survive. Find a grassy area outside, designate a pasture with i; designate the area the same way as you would for digging. Then hit n to make it a pasture, then N to assign animals to it. If you do choose to butcher it, it will be butchered in the butchers shop and your dwarfs won't care anyway; they only get unhappy if it's a pet. If it starves to death though, make sure you have a refuse pile outside (or inside behind a door) or it will fill your dining room with miasma.

Also, if you never assign a meeting area, I've noticed animals will just wander round outside by where your wagon was, and I think they graze too; I've noticed them doing this for a long time without getting hungry.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 05:27:26 pm »

butchering it wont traumatize your dwarves because it will be butchered in the butcher workshop.  To feed it make a pasture, to butcher it use v to select it, then hit p, then y.

s, for slaughter

and unless any dwarf has an emotional bond with an animal they won't care one bit what happens to it or where.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 05:28:33 pm »

(3) Things.

(1) Yaks (and other animals that need to eat) require grasses.  Grasses grow on the surface, but also on rough stone floors or underground soil, but only if you've breached the caverns (the mosses then start growing randomly, but will eventually fill everything out nicely).  Look on the wiki to see how much pasturage different animals need.

(2) Butchering is done at the butchers shop.  Once you designate the animal for butchering on the Z Animals screen, a dwarf with butchering enabled will come get the Yak and take it to the butcher shop, where it will be promptly struck down.  Be sure to also have a tanners shop nearby, so a dwarf with tanning enabled will take the raw skin and tan it.  Waste not and all.  A word of advice:  Put the butchers shop in a room with a door, that way if your haulers take too long getting to the meat, the miasma won't go beyond that room.

(3) All land animals use the same pathing.  If your dwarf can traverse it, so can a moose, a goblin, and a cat.  You can block animals movement by assigning them to a chain (they can move to adjacent squares), a cage (they get shoved in the cage) a pit (it just dumps them off the edge, if there's a path out, they can take it), or a pasture (they won't leave it voluntarily).  You can also block movement by "tightly closing" doors -- but they can still follow dwarves through when they pass through it.

Long story short:  Eat the yak, get chickens.  They don't need pasture.  Once you've secured aboveground pastures, or have breached the caverns, then you can start worrying about livestock like cows.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 05:36:14 pm »

(3) Things.

(1) Yaks (and other animals that need to eat) require grasses.  Grasses grow on the surface, but also on rough stone floors or underground soil, but only if you've breached the caverns (the mosses then start growing randomly, but will eventually fill everything out nicely).  Look on the wiki to see how much pasturage different animals need.

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rough stone floors and such stone things do not grow anything unless they have been muddied with water
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 05:41:04 pm »

(3) Things.

(1) Yaks (and other animals that need to eat) require grasses.  Grasses grow on the surface, but also on rough stone floors or underground soil, but only if you've breached the caverns (the mosses then start growing randomly, but will eventually fill everything out nicely).  Look on the wiki to see how much pasturage different animals need.

horse shit

rough stone floors and such stone things do not grow anything unless they have been muddied with water
Garath speaks truth.

And muddying things with water generally isn't worth it unless you don't have dirt/sand/clay anywhere at all.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2012, 05:51:15 pm »

And make sure your butcher's shop is aboveground. (unless you like miasma)
What if it's underground, but it has a door? I heard somewhere miasma won't be a problem if there's a door.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2012, 05:55:42 pm »

And make sure your butcher's shop is aboveground. (unless you like miasma)
What if it's underground, but it has a door? I heard somewhere miasma won't be a problem if there's a door.

That's what I usually do. I don't care if the butcher has to smell the stench of a dozen dead animals rotting in a confined space - miasma's not that bad a thought.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2012, 05:58:58 pm »

or, you know, wait with butchering untill you got some haulers to take care of stuff?
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2012, 05:59:45 pm »

Miasma will always form underground, but its movement is blocked by doors. So the easiest way is just to make sure your refuse stockpile is blocked by a door; hence dwarfs will be only very briefly exposed to miasma when transporting corpses in/out, if at all. If you're butchering fast enough though, you should never be getting miasma.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 06:07:44 pm »

Miasma also doesn't spread diagonally so if the entrance to your butcher shop is through a single diagonal, you don't even need a door to block the smell from spreading. Just keep in mind the dark green x squares of the workshop. Dwarves can't pass through those.

Yaks with access to grass or moss will happily graze, though they do eat a lot of it. Only the really large grazers are unable to eat enough and end up starving to death - namely elephants and rhinos.
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Re: Hungry Yak in my Dining Room..
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2012, 06:08:06 pm »

No, the easiest way is to stop miasma from forming in the first place. If you are butchering fast you'll get miasma, you need HAULERS. You know, those unskilled migrants? They'll take all the possible rot items to a stockpile where they won't rot.
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