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« Reply #180 on: May 30, 2013, 03:24:53 pm »

Canadian here. Is it possible in most states to just order ammunition on the internet? Does that raise any flags?
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« Reply #181 on: May 30, 2013, 03:25:52 pm »

Canadian here. Is it possible in most states to just order ammunition on the internet? Does that raise any flags?
Its just fine in florida.
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« Reply #182 on: May 30, 2013, 03:59:06 pm »

Back when I was making a AFMBE game (All Flesh must be eaten... A zombie Pen and Paper RPG)

I actually decided to do my research and write down every single weapon the police, swat, and military used and stat them out.

I was surprised by the difference between modern day weapon and WW2 weapons in just terms of weight and ammo capacity.

Heck AFMBE still uses the rules for WW2 (because it is Unisystem and their first game was in WW2) and thus the Pistols aren't automatically Semiautomatic. Which is interesting since the vast majority of pistols today are semiauto.

In fact I cannot think of a modern pistol that isn't unless it is a starter's pistol or a flare gun.

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One of the things I discovered is that all Burst Fire weaponry are capable of full auto but have it disabled.
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« Reply #183 on: May 30, 2013, 04:13:54 pm »

There are whole classes of modern revolvers that don't qualify as semi-automatic. Particularly the magnum varieties are almost all post-war.

I think the newest one would be the S&W 500. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_500
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« Reply #184 on: May 30, 2013, 04:16:28 pm »

I am going to exclude Revolvers (since AFMBE seperates Revolvers from Pistols).

Are there any modern non-revolvers that aren't semi-automatic?
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« Reply #185 on: May 30, 2013, 04:18:20 pm »

Double action revolvers bore me. Single action is more interesting. But on the bright side all revolvers are fun to reload.

PPE: I don't know. There are probably a few. I read a gun magazine a while back that talked about a single shot pistol as well as a lever action. I don't know if you're talking about "In production" or "Developed post WWII" though.
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« Reply #186 on: May 30, 2013, 04:21:11 pm »

A pistol someone would use today for legitimate reasons (legitimate meaning... They aren't just using it because it is a really old gun or because it is a challenge)

It could even be Pre-WW2 is people somehow still use it today and not just to be retro.
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« Reply #187 on: May 30, 2013, 04:23:39 pm »

A pistol someone would use today

There certainly are. Though I don't know of any you'd be surprised what you can buy or make. Replicas are likely an option.
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« Reply #188 on: May 30, 2013, 04:25:07 pm »

I am often surprised when BB-gun Replicas are much more expensive then the actual gun.

Though I can understand why... Automatic BB-guns need an engine.
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« Reply #189 on: May 30, 2013, 04:44:43 pm »

I am not sure what exactly you are looking for in a non semi-automatic pistol if you are not counting revolvers.

Single shot? Sure they exist for target shooting and for the occasional "Big Ass Bullet". I've heard of them being chambered for .308 or even .50 BMG.

Lever action? Pump action? The typical pistol doesn't have space for that.

Some other non-revolving system?



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« Reply #190 on: May 30, 2013, 04:46:57 pm »

Besides Revolvers are the best handgun aesthetically. Why look for anything else?
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« Reply #191 on: May 30, 2013, 05:48:08 pm »

Besides Revolvers are the best handgun aesthetically. Why look for anything else?
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« Reply #192 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:26 pm »

In fact I cannot think of a modern pistol that isn't unless it is a starter's pistol or a flare gun.

The distinction might be how the pistol achieves semiautomatic action. There are single action, single action/ double action, double-action-only and striker fired semiautomatics. The differences are probably too marginal to model in a DnD type game, but with single actions like the 1911 or Hi-Power you have to thumb the hammer back before it will fire the first shot.
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« Reply #193 on: May 30, 2013, 09:36:30 pm »

Ohh it isn't that the game I was using has "Semi-auto" as a status weapons can have (it allows you to make as many shots a turn as you have the ability to do).

While assault Rifles have innate Semi-auto (Sniper rifles are their own category) because as far as the game is concerned Assault Rifles come with Semi-auto so often that any assault rifle you see will be one.

While Pistols don't have the semi-auto status because of the time the original write up for the game was made. Which was for WW2 weaponry where semi-auto pistols weren't in the type of common use they are today.

To the extent where it is just flat out weird.

In fact the game also doesn't have "Burst Fire" weaponry because Burst Fire weapons didn't exist until post-WW2 with the advent of paramilitary and organizations such as SWAT. The game isn't even meant to take place in the past either, it just never updated its lists.
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« Reply #194 on: May 30, 2013, 10:00:54 pm »

Ohh it isn't that the game I was using has "Semi-auto" as a status weapons can have (it allows you to make as many shots a turn as you have the ability to do).

While assault Rifles have innate Semi-auto (Sniper rifles are their own category) because as far as the game is concerned Assault Rifles come with Semi-auto so often that any assault rifle you see will be one.

While Pistols don't have the semi-auto status because of the time the original write up for the game was made. Which was for WW2 weaponry where semi-auto pistols weren't in the type of common use they are today.
what?
The 1911 is a common semi-auto pistol from 1911
The German standard issue was the Luger P 08 from 1908 until the end of WW2.
Tokarev semi auto pistols date from the 1930's.
The Japanese Nambu pistol entered service in 1906.

Semi-auto pistols were very common.
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To the extent where it is just flat out weird.

In fact the game also doesn't have "Burst Fire" weaponry because Burst Fire weapons didn't exist until post-WW2 with the advent of paramilitary and organizations such as SWAT. The game isn't even meant to take place in the past either, it just never updated its lists.
Not sure if you mean automatic or 3 round burst weapons.
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