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zemagris

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Wars?
« on: April 11, 2012, 06:49:04 pm »

Is there any sure way to gen a world where one or more civs are at war with you? (Not counting FD, but if there's no way, I'll just use that.) Failing wars during worldgen, is there a way to make a civilization go to war with you? Specifically, the elves and humans. Goblins seem to like being hostile just fine.
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Orky_Boss

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Re: Wars?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 06:51:06 pm »

Is there any sure way to gen a world where one or more civs are at war with you? (Not counting FD, but if there's no way, I'll just use that.) Failing wars during worldgen, is there a way to make a civilization go to war with you? Specifically, the elves and humans. Goblins seem to like being hostile just fine.

All I can think of for elves is 'butcher' as many trees as you can and offer wood to their traders as much as possible. You'll also need a mayor so they can send a diplomat to declare war on you.
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Re: Wars?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 06:52:34 pm »

If you use DFHack run the 'fixdiplomats' command. This will make elven and human civilizations send diplomats to your fortress.

Kill their diplomats, or in the case of the elves break their tree-cutting quota, and they'll go to war with you.
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zemagris

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Re: Wars?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 06:55:11 pm »

Does that command need to be used while in a fortress, or do I use it on the menu then gen a new world?
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DrGravitas

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Re: Wars?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 07:03:05 pm »

Generate your world such that there are very few sites available to civilizations, yet a large (or better yet, unlimited) population limit. I suggest setting the number of sites to between 0 and 3 above the number of civilizations you want generated. Typically, this ends poorly for non-goblin civilizations and the elven civilizations are often extinguished outright. However, providing an environment tipped slightly in favor of non-goblins (typically by providing more good regions, and fewer evil/sinister ones) can be used if your not genning to your satisfaction.

Dwarves can be a bit trickier to get mixed up in wars. But providing lots of tiny mountain ranges (interspersed between plains and other human-elf friendly terrain) can help get them involved. Experiment, have fun, and let us know if your successful!
« Last Edit: April 11, 2012, 07:04:59 pm by DrGravitas »
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KodKod

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Re: Wars?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 07:05:27 pm »

Does that command need to be used while in a fortress, or do I use it on the menu then gen a new world?

'fixdiplomats' will work on a pre-existing world from fortress mode.
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zemagris

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Re: Wars?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 07:12:27 pm »

I generated two worlds with the basic gen, I got no goblins and no current wars on one, only goblins and dwarves on the other. Time to try advanced worldgen.
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Corai

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 08:06:21 pm »

Scream "WE ARE HARBORING KOBOLDS!"


Not only will every civ attack, so will KodKod!
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Re: Wars?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 08:26:48 pm »

That's just cause KodKod is expierimenting on your comrades in the Twelfth Bay. And Talvieno is doing nothing to stop it.

Corai

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 08:29:00 pm »

That's just cause KodKod is expierimenting on your comrades in the Twelfth Bay. And Talvieno is doing nothing to stop it.


I love how noone notices im a kobold until I speak.






I will kill you all.
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Re: Wars?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 08:42:43 pm »

I'll squish yo head you little runt. Even a pair of dogs is tougher than you. And that's saying something.

killerx243

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 09:10:36 pm »

It's kinda cute with its growling and little ears... The king will like this one.
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Ubiq

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 09:11:21 pm »

Go into entity_default.txt, add [BABYSNATCHER] to the mountain entity and delete it from the evil one. Everybody will now siege you.
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Corai

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2012, 09:12:02 pm »

It's kinda cute with its growling and little ears... The king will like this one.


Just wait until I get a candy dagger, then you will all pay.
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Re: Wars?
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 09:27:53 pm »

That's just cause KodKod is expierimenting on your comrades in the Twelfth Bay. And Talvieno is doing nothing to stop it.


I love how noone notices im a kobold until I speak.






I will kill you all.
You can't be a kobold! I'm a kobold/goblin/elf killer! I am a green squat humanoid with many kobold and goblin features who likes killing elves!
I AM A TRUE KOBOLD! I HAVE LEARNED ENGLISH!
I will translate for you:
"Gtillosdufrt lodawetud kobold! Kellodraft pragafastrodis!"

Beat that!  8)
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