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Biomes with brown recluse?
« on: April 11, 2012, 06:43:49 pm »

I remember embarking somewhere savage and finding (giant) brown recluse (men) silk everywhere.  I abandoned that fort and deleted that save and now I can't find them anywhere.  The wiki says Temperate Broadleaf forest but they're not there.
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Re: Biomes with brown recluse?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 06:50:49 pm »

They're only guaranteed to exist in a biome if they had the [UBIQUITOUS] tag, which they do not by default. Also the giant and aminal person varieties only exist in Savage Temperate Broadleaf forests.
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Re: Biomes with brown recluse?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 06:54:53 pm »

The small versions are also vermin, so they won't show up on the units screen.
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Re: Biomes with brown recluse?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 06:58:04 pm »

They're only guaranteed to exist in a biome if they had the [UBIQUITOUS] tag, which they do not by default. Also the giant and aminal person varieties only exist in Savage Temperate Broadleaf forests.

So (assuming I don't mod in [UBIQUITOUS]), if I embark on a Savage TBLF, and there's no spiders around, will they eventually show up?  Or are there STBLF that will just never have spiders?

The small versions are also vermin, so they won't show up on the units screen.

Yeah I know, actually in the embark where I had the silk, the BRS's weren't actually on the map anywhere, they had just left their webs.
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Re: Biomes with brown recluse?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 07:04:31 pm »

So (assuming I don't mod in [UBIQUITOUS]), if I embark on a Savage TBLF, and there's no spiders around, will they eventually show up?  Or are there STBLF that will just never have spiders?

Giant Brown Recluse Spiders and Brown Recluse Spider men might show up eventually. There's no real way of knowing except to simply... wait. Even if you DO have a population of them in your biome because there are so many different types of animals now you could be waiting a long time to see them.
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Re: Biomes with brown recluse?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 07:11:09 pm »

So (assuming I don't mod in [UBIQUITOUS]), if I embark on a Savage TBLF, and there's no spiders around, will they eventually show up?  Or are there STBLF that will just never have spiders?

Giant Brown Recluse Spiders and Brown Recluse Spider men might show up eventually. There's no real way of knowing except to simply... wait. Even if you DO have a population of them in your biome because there are so many different types of animals now you could be waiting a long time to see them.

Ok cool thanks for the information.

While we're talking about animals showing up, I like having a variety of animals for a zoo.  Do you guys try to embark on 4+ biomes in a 4x4 square to get animals from different biomes?  Does that work?  I once was on Badlands/Forest because I wanted GDS but didn't get any.
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Re: Biomes with brown recluse?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 07:17:53 pm »

Embarking on multiple biomes will definitely get you animals from all of the varieties you included. As with the brown recluses however you’re not generally guaranteed to get any specific animal.

The one thing I’d suggest is to go through the raws before you generate a new world and add [UBIQUITOUS] to all of the animals you like the sound of. That way, excluding a rare total extinction of the entire species, you’re guaranteed to get them if you embark in the right biome. It can still end up being a bit of a waiting game though.
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Re: Biomes with brown recluse?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 07:57:05 pm »

Embarking on multiple biomes will definitely get you animals from all of the varieties you included. As with the brown recluses however you’re not generally guaranteed to get any specific animal.

The one thing I’d suggest is to go through the raws before you generate a new world and add [UBIQUITOUS] to all of the animals you like the sound of. That way, excluding a rare total extinction of the entire species, you’re guaranteed to get them if you embark in the right biome. It can still end up being a bit of a waiting game though.

Awesome, I've elected to embark on a site straddling Joyous Wilds forest and Terrifying shrubland, and a big river junction.  Depending on how this goes I'll start ubiquitizing everything I like.
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