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TKGP

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Asbestos Mayor?
« on: April 10, 2012, 02:32:34 pm »

I was just minding my own business, flooding a fort I'd grown bored of with magma, but two dwarves and a cat refused to die.

They're on fire, but have no wounds.
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Even standing knee-deep in the magma!
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I am at a loss for words.
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 02:40:15 pm »

Did you turn off temperature calculations in the d_init file at some point and neglect to turn it on?
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 02:41:13 pm »

Did you turn off temperature calculations in the d_init file at some point and neglect to turn it on?

Well, the other 102 of them burned up just fine. I checked anyways, and it's definitely quite on.
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 02:44:31 pm »

Currently, dwarfs "burn" by their fat melting, causing massive bleeding. If the major had little or now fat, the little damage it did would have healed on it's own. Congratulations, you have a magma-proof mayor.

Why doesn't anyone just abandon and welcome the old inhabitants to the new fort. After all, what else to train a legendary weaponsmith for if not to use him in several forts.
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 02:49:44 pm »

Currently, dwarfs "burn" by their fat melting, causing massive bleeding. If the major had little or now fat, the little damage it did would have healed on it's own. Congratulations, you have a magma-proof mayor.

Why doesn't anyone just abandon and welcome the old inhabitants to the new fort. After all, what else to train a legendary weaponsmith for if not to use him in several forts.

Shits and giggles. It's fun to watch the little dudes die.
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 02:51:12 pm »

true, true
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 04:37:03 pm »

Now abandon and he should appear later.
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 04:50:51 pm »

Currently, dwarfs "burn" by their fat melting, causing massive bleeding. If the major had little or now fat, the little damage it did would have healed on it's own. Congratulations, you have a magma-proof mayor.
Now abandon and he should appear later.

!!IDEA!!
keep reclaiming the fort and committing magma genocide untill your only left with magma-proof dwarves, then abandon.
Repeat untill you reach a point that most migrants are from your previous forts.
=>Magma safe dwarven army!

Battle going badly? Goblin lashers closing in? Dump magma on everyone! (and they might even live!)
« Last Edit: April 10, 2012, 04:52:38 pm by daveralph1234 »
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 05:01:30 pm »

the steel armor survives, the steel weapons, the wariors too, but their clothing doesn't. Military starts tantrum!
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2012, 05:07:11 pm »

the steel armor survives, the steel weapons, the wariors too, but their clothing doesn't. Military starts tantrum!
Clearly then, these magma-proof soldiers need to be clad in candy armour AND clothes. Yes the clothes will rot over time just like mundane fabrics. But while it lasts you will have magma-proof dwarves with magma-proof clothes and equipment, wading through magma to rack up kill counts on bleeding, roasting targets!
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 05:19:21 pm »

Must... Resist... Temptation... To... Do...

ye gods, that would be a threetoe story, or just any writer. The wariors in shining blue armor, striding through knee deep lava to reach their victims, unbothered by the heat.... It's the stuff of legends.
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 05:37:23 pm »

Must... Resist... Temptation... To... Do...

ye gods, that would be a threetoe story, or just any writer. The wariors in shining blue armor, striding through knee deep lava to reach their victims, unbothered by the heat.... It's the stuff of legends.

That truely would be an epic. And also a testimant to how far bay12'ers are willing to go to find and exploit every bug and quirk, in the name of !!SCIENCE!!.

It would take A LOT of time and effort but I'm sure would go down in bay12 history. If anyone dose actually try this, it would probably be the sort of thing their looking for here:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105380.0
and here:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=86248.0

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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 05:41:58 pm »

the steel armor survives, the steel weapons, the wariors too, but their clothing doesn't. Military starts tantrum!
Clearly then, these magma-proof soldiers need to be clad in candy armour AND clothes. Yes the clothes will rot over time just like mundane fabrics. But while it lasts you will have magma-proof dwarves with magma-proof clothes and equipment, wading through magma to rack up kill counts on bleeding, roasting targets!

Webber clown silk is softer, doesn't chafe as much, doesn't make you look like dr. Evil, and is renewable.

It is also dwarfier.
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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2012, 08:00:51 pm »

Tested in arena mode by walking dwarves into 1/7 magma:

normal unclothed = catch on fire, bleed to death
normal, wearing heat-resistant armor = still catch on fire, bleed to death
fatless, unclothed = catch on fire, bleed to death
fatless, wearing heat-resistant armor = catch on fire, bleed to death

Time from reading thread until results: under 10 minutes

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Re: Asbestos Mayor?
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 10:07:38 am »

Tested in arena mode by walking dwarves into 1/7 magma:

normal unclothed = catch on fire, bleed to death
normal, wearing heat-resistant armor = still catch on fire, bleed to death
fatless, unclothed = catch on fire, bleed to death
fatless, wearing heat-resistant armor = catch on fire, bleed to death

Time from reading thread until results: under 10 minutes

Yeah, I was highly skeptical that ultra-lean dwarves were immune to magma.

So the question remains: what's keeping that mayor and cat alive?
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