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Author Topic: Why does everyone hate migrants?  (Read 13846 times)

thegoatgod_pan

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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2012, 03:15:12 am »

I love migrants. I don't abandon, i ride out my forts to the bitter end.

That means sometimes, one or two sober, ragged, rat-eating dwarves, surrounded by legions of their maddened and melancholy brethren get to open the gates to a lovely new batch of the fortresses future-

Welcome friends. I hope you know how to build coffins.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2012, 03:21:08 am »

When you have set popcap to 80, have 130 inhabitants and another 20 have just arrived, you will feel a bit beligerent too.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2012, 03:27:36 am »

When you have set popcap to 80, have 130 inhabitants and another 20 have just arrived, you will feel a bit beligerent too.

^^THIS^^

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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 03:55:10 am »

I don't know what you're talking about, I love the little bastards. Always things to do, never enough stubby little hands to do it. Sure, for the first couple years everyone will be sleeping on the floor and drinking out of the local river, but if it means clearing all of the stone out of my stockpiles won't be a year long project, I'll make it work.

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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2012, 04:05:21 am »

Hah, migrants are fine as long as you can find a use for them. Babies on the other hand... I have a population of 130 right now. With 50 children. 30 of which are babies.

What am I going to do with babies?
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2012, 04:17:23 am »

Hah, migrants are fine as long as you can find a use for them. Babies on the other hand... I have a population of 130 right now. With 50 children. 30 of which are babies.

What am I going to do with babies?

Babies:  Wait 2 years.  If they survive, they become dwarven children.
Children:  They become decent Growers over time.  They're allowed to pick crops once the crops are ripe, and that adds slightly to the Grower skill each time.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2012, 04:20:27 am »

change the child cap to something more reasonable if you don't like the babies/children. Change the time it takes them to grow to adult too.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2012, 04:36:06 am »

It would be neat if one could set up "castes" in-game. Perhaps certain administrative/noble jobs would promote or require a dwarf to be of a particular caste, the "standard" caste would allow most regular labors, and a "slave" caste would permit us overseers to assign workers to the "haul things and be naked and eat raw mushrooms instead of roasts," perhaps balling all of those negative thoughts into a single moderately bad "wishes he could move up in society" thought. I can't say I've put much thought into the idea, but since I already have a large "apprentice" labor group for extra dwarves, having a bit of extra control over what they do and how they behave might be nice. Plus, it could make nobles/administrators even more obnoxious than they already are.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2012, 04:44:52 am »

that could be a problem in my fort. There is almost nothing to eat but expensive meals
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2012, 05:11:57 am »

Welcome friends. I hope you know how to build coffins.
So true.  I should have a doormat with this printed on.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2012, 05:24:04 am »

Massive inbound migration can cause major problems including (but not limited to) food/booze/clothing (long-term) shortages, mass-unhappiness due to a lack of beds (unless you're ready for the bearded Zerg rush)
It is amazing that you managed to have shortages of something.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2012, 05:51:19 am »

I will stop hating migrants once I get a newer pc.
For now, I've capped my population to 10, got lucky and only got 10 migrants. With [CHILD:4], and child cap 10:40, my fort is now slowly growing at a rate of about 2.5 dwarves a year.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2012, 05:52:22 am »

The inevitable population tripling third wave. (which I now avoid with a pop-cap of 7.)

And I though my pop-cap of 30 was low. :P
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2012, 05:58:58 am »

There's only so much use for a dabbling herbalist in any given fort, let alone all thirty-seven of them. Don't even get me started on children...
I don't hate migrants, I hate useless migrants. Armorers, weaponsmiths, skilled masons: welcome. Fish dissectors, "administrators" (a.k.a. "I'm too posh to be a peasant!"), peasants: please drop dead already.
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Re: Why does everyone hate migrants?
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2012, 06:00:57 am »

Draft them. Turn them into goblin dissectors, pain administrators and, well, peasants. Although you could probably set them to processing plants or shit untill they're no longer peasants before drafting them.
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