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[sambojin]

Also, if you are going to get a noble going on Dwilight, get an adventurer going too. In a lot of ways, adventurers are more fun. Join an adventuring guild (Royal Rangers in Luria Nova, hint-hint) and have a laugh. You only have to RP a certain amount, and your character develops from what they do and their participation level, not politcally or heavy-RP wise.

I actually like Markos (my adventurer) more than Sha'shanti (my noble), simply due to the ability to light-RP things. You won't be changing the entire realm with an adventurer, but you can certainly assist with good things. It's actually suprising just how much adventurers can do, but joining a guild with a few nobles attached is handy. So many benefits for light-RP for paying a 5 gold membership fee.

I'm actually about to have to educate Sha'shanti, just because it's a flawed character concept in the long-term. Or was that re-Neducate?

Oh god, I just thought of something.......... I swear I won't do it. "Hididdly-ho neighbourin-no!!!!"

Nup. Just doesn't work

[ConscriptFive]

...I'm actually about to have to educate Sha'shanti...

RP'ing out My Fair Lady is surprisingly appropriate.

Wonderful old-world sexism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAY#t=00m51s

The iconic scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmU3iANbgk#t=00m30s

[zehive]

I figured I'd make nobles on less RP-intensive servers. One kingdom I've been trying to get in contact with a duke for 5 days, I'm about to just move into an estate lest I go broke. On the other server pretty much immediately after I joined I got an offer from a Baron for an estate. Moved there, took it up. I might be regretting it tho, as I'm easing into the RP bits pretty well

[sambojin]

In places where there is less contact from higher ranking nobles, I find it's best to say what you're going to do, rather than ask if you can do it.

Just sort of state it as a question, in the sense that if they give a negative response then you won't do it, otherwise you will. Estate jumping isn't exactly the worst thing in the world either. Just move in, state that they're just your temporary lodgings, then you can RP your staying (it's grown on you) if no-one responds. Or RP your moving to a new estate if they don't want you there, or someone offers somewhere better. It's an easy intro to the game, and it makes sure you have some sort of income straight off the bat. You'll be told if you just nicked an estate that was promised to someone else, but thats a very rare occurance.

There's also usually no reason that a lord wouldn't want an extra knight around the place anyway. It improves efficiency, and they can set the percentages of estates to whatever they feel like anyway. So go squatting in a spare estate until told otherwise I think, especially if there's been no response to your initial messages.

[sambojin]

Has anyone had any experience in being a trader or a courtier? Sha'shanti has just gotten enough honour recently to become either, and I wouldn't mind exploring a few more options in the game. Strangely enough, trader probably fits her better than courtier, just from the shop-a-holic side of things.

It's not that I'm not having fun with her as a warrior, far from it, but it might be fun to do a few other things too. I actually like her having a reasonable unit of archers, it's pretty much her reason for existing, but trader also sounds fun.

So does anyone have any thoughts on the positive/negatives of either of the two career choices?

[Brotato]

Has anyone had any experience in being a trader or a courtier? Sha'shanti has just gotten enough honour recently to become either, and I wouldn't mind exploring a few more options in the game. Strangely enough, trader probably fits her better than courtier, just from the shop-a-holic side of things.

It's not that I'm not having fun with her as a warrior, far from it, but it might be fun to do a few other things too. I actually like her having a reasonable unit of archers, it's pretty much her reason for existing, but trader also sounds fun.

So does anyone have any thoughts on the positive/negatives of either of the two career choices?

I've only just started the game and am having quite a blast as part of CE right now, (Was anyone here part of that MASSIVE battle in Nazamroth?  So sad I can't be its marquess anymore) so I wouldn't know about either option.  But what can even be traded in the gaame other than food?

[Urist McBeanie]

(Was anyone here part of that MASSIVE battle in Nazamroth?  So sad I can't be its marquess anymore)

Yep, but keep in mind, the province isn't lost yet. With the Cagilan Empire and Talerium's forces combined, it will be possible to retake it.

[Brotato]

(Was anyone here part of that MASSIVE battle in Nazamroth?  So sad I can't be its marquess anymore)

Yep, but keep in mind, the province isn't lost yet. With the Cagilan Empire and Talerium's forces combined, it will be possible to retake it.

Doesn't bother me if we can't.  I'm running for election in Woodglen, so I'll still have a region to be lord in hopefully.  plus, we were eventually going to give to Talerium anyways, so my time as its lord wouldn't have been forever.

[vagel7]

I was in the battle an Nazamroth, although I was fighting on Eston's side.

[Brotato]

I was in the battle an Nazamroth, although I was fighting on Eston's side.

Damn, I didn't think I'd ever have to call a fellow Bay12er and enemy.  That's a real Shame.   Just remember to tell your bosses to treat my region well kept.  I expect production and morale to be high, the granaries to full, the recruitment centers stocked, you get the idea.  It won't be long before we come rolling back in to take control.

So what realm do you fight for, exactly?  I'd be interested in hearing other Bay12ers' opinions about CE, the current war, and who they think is right and wrong in this fight.  Also, what's your lord's name, home region, class, etc?

[sambojin]

My adventurer Godnim just bit the dust, so I've got a character slot free. Any bay12'ers want an extra noble in their particular realm? I'm stocked up on Dwilight, but am happy to chuck someone in on any of the other islands.

[Absolute Niro]

This sounds like an interesting game, thought I'd ask a few questions first though.

Is it still active? By that I mean it actually feels like there are other people around. Roleplaying games just aren't fun when they're unrealistically underpopulated. And is there some specific server Bay12 is playing on, like a guild or something? I haven't actually tried the game yet and I haven't read much on the wiki so I don't know how stuff like that works exactly.

[Mini]

It's quite active yes, it's been a bit quieter than usual in the immediate past due to christmas and all that. Dwilight (the serious island) probably has the most B12ers on it, with people scattered everywhere now that Summerdale (which used to have a large concentration of B12ers) has been wiped out.

[christonian]

ok I have a noble and commoner on dwilight and another noble on Atamara

any recommendations for a starting character other then try to get a estate from local lord and move towards your capital for recruiting???

[sambojin]

That's about it from the start. You might want to join a guild or religion though, it just livens things up a bit if things start to get boring.

Also, ask if there are any armies that need a new knight, or if there's an internal security force that needs more patrols. You might find that there's a large war going on, so grab as many troops as you can and jump into an army. It's a quick way of grasping some of the fundamentals of the game (more-so from what other people do and your orders, not what you'll do) and can boost your noble pretty quickly if your realm is winning.

For the internal security, it's a necessary job that lets you help out your kingdom while you get the lay of the land. Team up with a noble or two and go slaughtering monsters and undead. It's more fun than just sitting around the capital and boosts your noble a bit while you work out what's going on. Don't go in alone at the start though. That message system is there for a reason, and is the core menu of the game. Team hunting will let you appreciate co-ordinated movement on a smaller, more personal scale, and it's a good way of making friends in your realm.

At the beginning I recommend a good archer unit. They're not massively effective, but at least when you win you don't tend to take any losses. This is quite important at the start. If you lose, you may lose a lot, but you'll find that every unit loses a lot when defeated. At least you won't lose half your unit while winning the battle.