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[danaris]

I just realized that Darfix is under no ones control currently...anybody in for some Kingdom founding in Dwilight?

You're welcome to try, but a) it's been tried before, and failed (badly), and b) Iashalur is planning to take it, and they've got the full might of Sanguis Astroism behind them.

[Ghazkull]

Oh come on there must be at least some remainders from Summerdale around who would like to try and revive it in Darfix...

[Vonyx]

Even though I like the idea of a second last stand against SA in the NW, alas I do not think it is possible.


But I'm curious... do you have a plan to do this?

[sambojin]

Fair enough. Saying what you think would be funny to do on these forums and doing it in Battlemaster are two different things. Although, to tell you the truth, my "putting up with nerdy tossers" quota has been pretty much filled anyway, so I'll probably just quit the game in a few days to save myself putting up with shit like this again. It'll also save you worrying yourself about any particular style of roleplaying or the abilities to do it with good narrative in the SMA environment. SMA is important on Dwilight, but so are a lot of things.

What's the point of playing Battlemaster if it isn't any fun?

[SealyStar]

Sheesh... I wouldn't have made a character on Dwilight if I had known it was run by the RP Nazis authoritarians.

[sambojin]

I'm really not sure if it is actually. I've got a lot of real life stuff to do anyway, so it won't actually be a ragequit because of two SMA freaks attempting to put their vision of roleplaying on Dwilight on to me. They didn't help the idea of staying, but these guys aren't actually in control of anything. And this is a totally unrelated forum, so they're free to say whatever they please. I guess they just stand out due to this being the bay12 forum, I'm not really used to people being serious on here. Especially when they sound like they actually care about the game.

BMs got a pretty good community, especially on Dwilight (and in Summerdale). I just can't be fucked playing any more.

[Fanofgaming]

If you guys didn't want a serious roleplaying experience, you really shouldn't have joined the Serious Medieval Atmosphere island.

[sambojin]

I never said I didn't want that. I do take offense at being told what I can and can't do with my noble though. So far I've roleplayed quite seriously about even rather comical things. But meh, screw it. I'll just kill them off or deport them myself, so as not to offend any "really-pathetically-serious-medieval-atmosphere" types.

Strangely enough, I haven't done a thing wrong in Dwilight yet, even playing my noble as a bumbling alcoholic that hangs out in bars all day. Whether that fits into your idea of serious medieval roleplaying is pretty much irrelevant. Currently Summerdale is losing nobles at an astounding rate, has two weeks of really boring travel to get where they're going,  very little cohesion in group storylines or movement (not that I helped on that last point). They have a king that did precisely bugger all during the biggest events in the realm's history, a lot of new players, and little background to work with for new players to use for their character development.

Cutting us newbies some slack in the SMA side of things, especially if we're just trying to liven up an incredibly boring time in Summerdale's history, seems fairly reasonable to me. The player base won't exactly be made larger if people feel it necessary to tell new players what they can and can't do, in bold face type. Possibly with exclamation marks!!!!

Anyway, consider Graham and Yrik dead or deported (I'll decide which soon). They will probably die in a massive battle featuring aliens, lasers, cowboys, gay bikies, dinosaurs, nazi's riding pegasi and linux penguins. Just to spite some of the posters here.

Then my new adventurer on belattura can go about his business without this kind of crap. He's probably more succesful than Yrik was already, and I've only had him an hour.

[Trollheiming]

Danaris is a by-the-books dev, probably steeped in the SMA code, but most actual players on Dwilight are more relaxed from what I see, sambojin.

I've been in Giask for about a month but desperately need a reason to log-in. I haven't even switched to Luria Nova yet, so can't fault them. When I left Summerdale, I seriously lost my steam.

[sambojin]

Yeah. I might just make a new noble in Luria Nova once I have enough time to RP stuff properly. Maybe. Summerdale falling to boredom makes this "actual" boring part all the more tedious. Adventurers are quick to play as, nobles (when played correctly), not quite as much.

Anyway, if I do make a new noble on Dwilight down the track, you can be sure he'll have an awesome handlebar moustache, as a mark of disrepect to SMA weirdos everywhere. Well, here mostly.

[Ehndras]

Oh, we have plenty of fun in Dwilight, there just isn't any room for anything remotely related to bikers, and every admin and magistrate will agree with this. :-P

Its the SMA island and those in charge want it specifically serious-medieval-atmosphere. Hell, even I've been yelled at (multiple times) for borderline behavior.

You can be a bumbling drunken buffoon and damn right its serious medieval atmosphere, just don't be straight-up ridiculous and break the SMA with macho-macho-man RPs which in no way translate to SMA. Go ahead and have your homo-erotic display of leather, just don't equate anything to real-world religions, politics, or anything modern like the actual song. Nothing related to real-world religions is even allowed on Dwilight, where-as I've noticed other servers actually even HAVE real-world religions as theirs, such as Way of the Hammer for Hammersett. My Asatru friends would love Hammersett, bahaha. ( Asatru is a Norse-Pagan sect. Yes these people exist still, and in the hundreds of thousands. Not everyone has abandoned the old faiths, despite the wholesale genocide, enslavement, and assimilation campaign of a thousand+ years perpetrated by Christianity in the last millennium. As any student of theology or history can tell you, a lot of Christian concepts have merged with typical Norse myths, while modern Christianity also has many beliefs they ironically borrowed from Norse faiths. Hell, the word Hell is derived from Hel, and even our days are all derived from a certain Germanic manner, though the two are very well-known examples of Christian mythological hybridization from the last millennium. There are surprisingly still those who've never given up on the old beliefs, though that's something which isn't spoken of for the most part due to the massive stigma against anything seemingly Pagan in many parts of the world. Last few years have seen a revival in public displays of the more Pagan variety as people around the world become slightly less douchey about respecting others' beliefs.)

Dwilight is THE serious-business server, made for serious RP by serious RPers and rigorously run by those in charge. I would ragequit if some of the idiots on other servers could do in Dwilight what they do in Far East or the Colonies, it simply has no place in Dwilight - not to mention it being against Dwilight's rules. I'm a serious RPer on ALL my characters, but I do have some fun. ;-) Hammersett especially was an absolute fucking BLAST before their leadership fell apart and everyone died. Lol. I've got my cunning, macabre, death-worshiping assassin in the Far East, my divine priest-hero in Belluatera, my ambitious military commander in Dwilight, and I'm bringing a 4th noble (smartass merchant/trader most likely.) into the game sometime in the next 2 weeks, once making my own religion in Belluatera is complete and I get the fame points for Prophet status. :-) But that's just me. Anywhere but Dwilight, that is my choice to be serious or not. In Dwilight, it is expected of you to RP properly, or at least respect the ways. You don't have to post 4-5 pages of RP a day like I sometimes do, but you must respect others' right to RP in a serious environment. If you're to RP a drunken idiot, do so with poise. Don't make him seem like an idiot peasant but instead as a wild (albeit dumbass) nobleman. Embrace the crazy! Do so with honor! (if you're a noble, of course. Adventurers can RP as idiots all they want, but nobles are expected to be the modicum of civility and honor - which doesn't usually happen bahaha)

We're not trying to be pissy or dicks, and we're not a minority. Dwilight is THE SMA server, and you WILL get in trouble for being a retard and going against SMA. You can sport whatever ridiculous moustaches you want, just don't expect to act in a manner that's not medieval and get taken seriously. At best, your fellow nobles think you're a cunt for being another one of 'those' guys who think they'll screw around on the made-to-not-screw-around server when there's other servers you can be an alien-worshipping tin-foil-hat lover who fights their enemies with a giant flaming dong. At worst, you get reported for being a douche, or banned from your nation by a noble who hates you, or executed, or fined, or murdered, or... (if you're a noble. If you're an adventurer, then it all depends on your local nobles. :-P My old Dwilight adventurer got arrested to telling a noble to go f- themselves in a very archaic and "proper medieval" manner by insulting their women and their culture eloquently, but I miscalculated my travel time and was subsequently caught and arrested, LOL. My new Dwilight noble just has fun adventuring and is even doing freelance work for western governments I will not name, which has been quite interesting! Rule is, Noble? ACT LIKE ONE. Adventurer? You're peasant filth so you can do whatever you want.)

Again, just to repeat, you can get away with most actions in Dwilight, just don't stop taking the server seriously because you WILL be reprimanded for breaking SMA. The serious server is the serious server and they're losing nothing at all if you ragequit because you can't follow the rules. I'm only passing on what has been said to me and brought up multiple times, often by Magistrates - those dudes with the power to roflsmack you down.

Have your fun, but remember that the first line of defense are the nobles of Dwilight who mostly take things very seriously, and second, the admins/mods/magistrates who can and will make your life hell if they hear complaints of your behavior. GOD FORBID I RP the way I do in some of these nations, I'd be beheaded for heresy, especially in the Theocracies of Sanguis Astroism >_> Terran is a pretty good place and they're not douchey, but they *do* take their military service and honor seriously. If you're in Terran you bet your ass you'd better respect the Senate and serve your nation in the army. Actually, no. Every nation is like that. We just don't have a supreme leader to be all "If you don't respect me, I'll have you executed!" Like I see all day on bloody Far East. Yeesh, its like people don't realize someone can have a differing opinion in the Far East >_> You don't agree then its war and execution, LOL. I just witnessed 3-4 different examples of "I have power therefore I'm right you're wrong lalalalalalaalala, EXECUTION OR EXILE" on Far East in the last week, bahaha. These people crack me up!

[Ehndras]

If you're in Summerdale you'll get away with it.

So long as no one complains, you're good. Our warning is simply that other nations won't take it so lightly... :-P They have the power to ban, exile, and execute you for sneezing in the wrong direction, as any powerful noble on other servers do, but some won't hesitate to roflstomp you for breaking the rules of etiquette that nation holds, be it religiously, politically, militarily, or socially. That is their right and they can enforce it as they wish.

I'm not sure how the southern nations are, but the northern ones seem strict-as-fuck to me. I think you'll have a lot of fun in the southern nations though. :-)

[SealyStar]

What idiot on the dev team decided to make the Colonies the half-speed island? I love everything about it-the lightheartedness (Outer Tilog...), the newness and freedom, etc... EXCEPT the dumbass half-speed code. Why can't there at least be an alternate Colonies without that code?

[Zangi]

What idiot on the dev team decided to make the Colonies the half-speed island? I love everything about it-the lightheartedness (Outer Tilog...), the newness and freedom, etc... EXCEPT the dumbass half-speed code. Why can't there at least be an alternate Colonies without that code?

Most of the islands are pretty old...  years old.  It is specifically made for people with less time.

Also, I've been sitting in Outer Tilog for the last month or so... just watching people talk, as it entertains me.  One of the 'inactive' courtiers.  Not like they are doing much other then picking up land.  Its basically peace everywhere on that island, now that all that is left is the allies of Lukon.  (Which has been for more then 3-4 years actually...)

[danaris]

The Colonies is one of the 3 original islands. It goes back over a decade to the pre-BattleMaster days, when the game was SpellMaster, and it was mostly freeform RP guided by some pretty simple game mechanics and rules.

It is specifically tailored for people with less time or less regular time for BattleMaster.

And the same thing that goes for Dwilight goes for it: If you don't like it, there's loads of places elsewhere in the game that are clamouring for nobles.