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[Trollheiming]

"Misleading" would depend on if the conclusions were flawed because of the differences. I'm inclined to think the lack of the extra nuance there is actually not very misleading. Morek is still the same general theme of theocracy, and probably many of the same characters and families. Astrum likewise probably views it as related in theme and purpose. The resulting conclusions can't be too misleading. War against their fatherland was never going to happen.

[Empty]

Summerdale only has itself to blame for its defeat.

Our whole plan of flipping the regions was to flip till Nifel.
So Morek would have had to actually wage war on Astrum to take Summerdale's capitol.

Sadly almost everyone except Nifel did it.

[Vel]

Admittedly, that sounds a little iffy of a plan even if it had gone down. Don't you think Astrum would've probably tossed Nifel back to Summerdale lest they be forced into the war? Or worse, to Morek. After all, it'd merely take a quick replacement of the ruling lord.

And then even if things had stalled, do you think Astrum would simply hand back the land after being put at risk? It sounds more like Summerdale would've been reduced to a single province..

[Empty]

Admittedly, that sounds a little iffy of a plan even if it had gone down. Don't you think Astrum would've probably tossed Nifel back to Summerdale lest they be forced into the war? Or worse, to Morek. After all, it'd merely take a quick replacement of the ruling lord.

And then even if things had stalled, do you think Astrum would simply hand back the land after being put at risk? It sounds more like Summerdale would've been reduced to a single province..

Unless the ruler of a realm changes the lord of a region that region can defect to whomever is adjacent.
And it's not like Astrum would want those regions if the nobles did not come with them. Since they already have a lot of monster outbreaks.

[Trollheiming]

Did the ruler of Astrum sign off on this plan?

[Rakonas]

The whole thing sounds as (if not more) gamey as when orris flipped mt. black nastrond to morek. Wouldn't be a part of it personally.

[Jimlad11]

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[Zangi]

As it is, the influence of Sanguis Astroism is well entrenched in many realms, one way or another...
It may serve you to look south or to the southeast?  Long travel times though...

And yea, flipping regions to force war... is quite meta and probably not in the spirit of the game/Dwilight.  Especially if those flipping intend to return to Summerdale afterwards.

[Vel]

Admittedly, that sounds a little iffy of a plan even if it had gone down. Don't you think Astrum would've probably tossed Nifel back to Summerdale lest they be forced into the war? Or worse, to Morek. After all, it'd merely take a quick replacement of the ruling lord.

And then even if things had stalled, do you think Astrum would simply hand back the land after being put at risk? It sounds more like Summerdale would've been reduced to a single province..

Unless the ruler of a realm changes the lord of a region that region can defect to whomever is adjacent.
And it's not like Astrum would want those regions if the nobles did not come with them. Since they already have a lot of monster outbreaks.

Yea, but it's fairly easy to change the lord of a region.

[sambojin]

It's not considered a meta-gaming infraction to have your adventurer travel along with your noble on Dwilight is it? They're RP'd as half-brothers, one called the other to Summerdale during the war, now they've bumped into each other during the exodus.

It's mainly just for RP reasons. There's a long, boring road ahead, press "travel" and wait a day", so it'll give me a bit of a chance to make up some stupid situations for them to get into. Plus, my knowledge of geography in BM is next to none, so I wouldn't mind them being in approximately the same place.

There's also the fact that my adventurer tends to be pretty unsuccessful, so I don't think I could turn it to my advantage if I tried.

[Ehndras]

Nah, that's alright. I've been told by admins it'd be 'fine' to have my guys together, even to RP together if I want, though that's unnecessary.

I keep my adventurer traveling around the world collecting items and trying to find interesting situations, but he... She, still remains loyal to the family and to Terran. I have a whole backstory on how her grand/great-grandfather/whatever was a noble of Terran but his name was dishonored and that side of the family exiled/cut-off. If I could have 2 chars on Dwilight I'd RP her as attempting to regain nobility, which I am, but it'll never actually happen. I might eventually move her to Belluaterra if my religion gains power, I'm certainly getting some positive feedback on my RP posts :-D

[Zangi]

Maybe if your main was a hero... and ends up dying in some small skirmish with 5 monsters.

[Andira]

A truly heroic death.

[Ehndras]

Eh. My main is the Marshal of the Pride in Dwilight and Senator of Vassar, with aspirations towards one day being a General (IC aspirations). If she died I'd be SERIOUSLY pissed off and ragequit to be completely honest. Maybe if I curry enough favor and get cozy with some nobles I might be able to work up my adventurer to one day replace her, but I'm not counting on it.

I'm in Dwilight-Terran for the long-run and I'm not risking Alura.

I don't really want to risk Ehndras either, but screw it. He's already a Hero. :-P I'm hoping he'll at least survive long enough to become a Priest of my religion and thus impervious to battle <_<

[Vonyx]

I think I'll emigrate to Beluaterra with my noble on Atamara as I'm starting to get bored.

So, which realm should I choose?