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[robertheinrich]

Do animals ever die out? I have badgers on my map so I'm assuming they will keep spawning indefinitely.

Capture the badgers and start breeding them.

[Tolisk]

Right, but you can't make bolts out of zinc without modding. It's not normally a weapon material.

Are you sure? I tend to find all metals can be used for bolts.

[Loud Whispers]

Do animals ever die out? I have badgers on my map so I'm assuming they will keep spawning indefinitely.

It is possible to drive animal populations to extinction, so yes. Though it can sometimes be very hard (some animals end up with populations numbering in the hundreds of thousands).

Right, but you can't make bolts out of zinc without modding. It's not normally a weapon material.

Are you sure? I tend to find all metals can be used for bolts.

[ITEMS_AMMO] determines whether or not a metal can be used for bolts and arrows, and most metals inclunding zinc do not have this tag. Oddly enough, you can make gold bolts.

[slothen]

Right, but you can't make bolts out of zinc without modding. It's not normally a weapon material.

Are you sure? I tend to find all metals can be used for bolts.

I use the masterwork mod

[ITEMS_AMMO] determines whether or not a metal can be used for bolts and arrows, and most metals inclunding zinc do not have this tag. Oddly enough, you can make gold bolts.

my vanilla 34.06 does not have this tag nor the option to use gold under 'weapons and ammo' at a forge.

[Loud Whispers]

I'm using vanilla 34.07, and it has that tag on it

[caddybear]

So silver bolts and arrows are better than steel ones? Oh.

[Tolisk]

Keep the good stuff like steel for blades and armour, shove that sucky stuff into bolts.

[Rude]

So silver bolts and arrows are better than steel ones? Oh.

After a bit of testing an theorizing, the community generally accepts that heavier bolts are better. You probably won't notice the actual effective difference between silver and steel bolts without deliberate testing.
IMO, steel bolts are a bit of a waste of resources unless you have several layers with magnetite.

[Garath]

So silver bolts and arrows are better than steel ones? Oh.

After a bit of testing an theorizing, the community generally accepts that heavier bolts are better. You probably won't notice the actual effective difference between silver and steel bolts without deliberate testing.
IMO, steel bolts are a bit of a waste of resources unless you have several layers with magnetite.

and spare flux

To be honest, any metal bolt is deadly

[Niyazov]

I find that the best way to get leather is to order it from the Dwarven caravan. If you put emphasis on every possible leather kind you will get huge amounts delivered the following year.

As for quivers, they can also be made out of cloth but dwarves are unable to make cloth quivers. You may get migrants that have them, though. For some reason it seems like a good 10-20% of my migrants come with a few levels in a hunting skill and come pre-equipped with a crossbow, quiver and bolts.

[AWdeV]

Just import the rot. The average price of Dwarfhold leather varies from 5 to 15 bucks a piece which gives you a decent bin full for a minimum of 65. One +weasel tallow roast+ and you've got three and a happy merchant.

So do as Niyazov said. The Dwarf caravan will happily bring you a huuuuuuuuuuuuge load of leather.

And you can even buy pre-made quivers from them too, also for a low price.

[IT 000]

So silver bolts and arrows are better than steel ones? Oh.

After a bit of testing an theorizing, the community generally accepts that heavier bolts are better. You probably won't notice the actual effective difference between silver and steel bolts without deliberate testing.
IMO, steel bolts are a bit of a waste of resources unless you have several layers with magnetite.

Nope, bolts use the EDGE tag which means metals which are better for edged weapons are better for bolts. Silver bolts are worse than copper bolts which are worse than iron bolts etc.

Silver bolts if and when they get blocked by armor become a blunt attack and may break bones under the armor. However whether this is better or worse than a steel bolt piercing straight through and tearing apart the spleen is largely opinion. Since goblins tend to have very little armor in the first place this is even less of an issue.

However, in vanilla bolts have a max speed so bolts like adamantine are not plausible because they will reach this speed very quickly and they will be just as effective as an iron bolt.

Generally the best material to worst materials are

Steel, Copper, Iron/Silver, Wood/Bone

I consider copper the best as it is more time consuming to make, and has both a high density and a decent piercing ability. But opinions opinions.

Quality of both crossbow and ammo has an effect as well.

Here's the 'Community Testing and theorizing' behind this claim.

[Rude]

So silver bolts and arrows are better than steel ones? Oh.

After a bit of testing an theorizing, the community generally accepts that heavier bolts are better. You probably won't notice the actual effective difference between silver and steel bolts without deliberate testing.
IMO, steel bolts are a bit of a waste of resources unless you have several layers with magnetite.

Nope, bolts use the EDGE tag which means metals which are better for edged weapons are better for bolts. Silver bolts are worse than copper bolts which are worse than iron bolts etc.

Silver bolts if and when they get blocked by armor become a blunt attack and may break bones under the armor. However whether this is better or worse than a steel bolt piercing straight through and tearing apart the spleen is largely opinion. Since goblins tend to have very little armor in the first place this is even less of an issue.

However, in vanilla bolts have a max speed so bolts like adamantine are not plausible because they will reach this speed very quickly and they will be just as effective as an iron bolt.

Generally the best material to worst materials are

Steel, Copper, Iron/Silver, Wood/Bone

I consider copper the best as it is more time consuming to make, and has both a high density and a decent piercing ability. But opinions opinions.

Quality of both crossbow and ammo has an effect as well.

Here's the 'Community Testing and theorizing' behind this claim.

Yup, that's the one. thanks for clearing that up.

[slothen]

I don't see anything in that thread that really shows adamantine is better for bolts than other metals, or even contradicts the idea that heavier bolts inflict more damage.  It would be cool to see some combat logs of steel bolts doing some clean piercing/tearing-of-organs next to silver bolts not piercing and only bruising/chipping, but I don't see any direct test of differing metals.

[Garath]

I don't see anything in that thread that really shows adamantine is better for bolts than other metals, or even contradicts the idea that heavier bolts inflict more damage.  It would be cool to see some combat logs of steel bolts doing some clean piercing/tearing-of-organs next to silver bolts not piercing and only bruising/chipping, but I don't see any direct test of differing metals.

there was one iron vs adamantine bolts, otherwise same iron armor. Iron won, but I don't think it was repeated multiple times to see if it was accidental.