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[Sirian]

I think i'll do production only, but this time i may start with water and electricity, plus some mining, and branch off in the textile industry, and once i get enough money from that i'll start producing food again. My goal is to have massive production but keep my research as diverse as possible to be able to produce decent quality of whatever the b2b market needs.

[Funk]

im trying to help with the power / water short fall, right now 0.5 is cheap right?

[Muz]

I'll go production only too.

Hey, instead of everyone individually conquering an entire chain, I find that it's easier (and less grind) to focus on one thing and get really high research for that one thing instead of trying to master an entire category. Like, it's easier for one company to do Q50 iron, another to do Q40 steel, and so on instead of trying to mine every kind of metal early in the game.

So, how about some of us take around 2-4 initial products to really specialize on? And we can work together on some dwarfy product like furniture or jewelry or clothing.

Actually pretty much everything is dwarfy. But we should work on something that's really hard to manufacture or get capital for initially.

I found food extremely profitable. The food chain is really long, and there's so much variety that most people usually release Q9 or so products, while I had Q30 stuff due to specialization.

Maybe we should try and do a burger/hot dog chain.

I'll probably try and specialize in White and Malt Vinegar. Would need a high Q Barley supplier, and someone who wants to produce mayo, mustard, ketchup, and some more hot food producers further down the chain. We don't even have to give discounts - we just have to make sure that we're not stepping on each other's toes and hint where there might be quality supplies and higher demand.

[Brons]

I'm not sure what I'll do on a new server yet. I think I'll go into furniture again.

[LoSboccacc]

Nah, being independent pay off when shit meets fan.

Auto Union is only minimally affected by the recent shortages. (namely the petrolchemical plant is to small to feed plastic to both leather and seats and rubber)

[evilcherry]

I'll go production only too.

Hey, instead of everyone individually conquering an entire chain, I find that it's easier (and less grind) to focus on one thing and get really high research for that one thing instead of trying to master an entire category. Like, it's easier for one company to do Q50 iron, another to do Q40 steel, and so on instead of trying to mine every kind of metal early in the game.

So, how about some of us take around 2-4 initial products to really specialize on? And we can work together on some dwarfy product like furniture or jewelry or clothing.

Actually pretty much everything is dwarfy. But we should work on something that's really hard to manufacture or get capital for initially.

I found food extremely profitable. The food chain is really long, and there's so much variety that most people usually release Q9 or so products, while I had Q30 stuff due to specialization.

Maybe we should try and do a burger/hot dog chain.

I'll probably try and specialize in White and Malt Vinegar. Would need a high Q Barley supplier, and someone who wants to produce mayo, mustard, ketchup, and some more hot food producers further down the chain. We don't even have to give discounts - we just have to make sure that we're not stepping on each other's toes and hint where there might be quality supplies and higher demand.

Point is, with the current pricing and retail structure, it does not make sense to specialize in any one food, since suppliers are only selling at ridiculous prices.

[Sirian]

The problem with specialization is that it lacks flexibility. I've noticed that in the food business, some wares are over-produced while some others fail to keep up with demand. What i've been doing lately is produce those things in high demand to keep my margins high, but the problem is that it's a dynamic system so last week's market may not be the same as today's.

And it's bound to stay this way, because if there is a market that has high margins and high demand, people will try to profit from it until it's saturated.

Hence flexibility > specialization.

[BallC420]

So I heard back from the dev and he said my company's graphs looked "too suspicious". That combined with the fact that I got left as the chairman of RAPTURE (with a total of 3% of the stock) when Walter and DropsySufferer dumped it was enough to trigger a short jail sentence for me. I get out tonight though. I doubt I'll get the money back that I had in each of my companies but I'm sure they will recover once the stores are back online later this week. I'm not exactly sure why companies that I've started legitimately with money from my sporting goods company and have been building for a week and therefore had store sales finally for a few days (with the accompanying increase in net worth) look suspicious but hey, what can you do.

New feature it looks like he added last night is to show you the list of folks who are in jail and when they get released: http://www.ratjoy.com/eos/players/jail.php

[Aklyon]

Well thats not very helpful for Darkling Wolf, now is it?

[BallC420]

Well, here's what it says right now on the jail page (only visible to players who are NOT in jail):

Jail

This is the jail. It looks awfully empty, all you see is quality 999 walls in all directions.

You don't know why you are here, or how you are able to stay alive in this closed space without proper ventilation, or how you got in here in the first place.

Oh, you are just visiting? Here is a list of people currently in jail:

Johnny Cash- Lifetime
Kyratzes Talvadore- Lifetime
RICHEST MAN IN EOS- Lifetime
Revanchism- Lifetime
Albert Rubin- Lifetime
Steve Jobz- Lifetime
decryption- Lifetime
Investment Banker- Lifetime
Sam Bollock- Lifetime
Concerned RoboCitizen- Lifetime
Dave Johnson- Lifetime
Kudaros- Lifetime
Gail Goose- Lifetime
DropsySufferer- Lifetime
Toby Ziegler- Lifetime
Josh- Lifetime
Milo Minderbinder- Until June 17, 2012, 7:58 AM
Saint-John Cornwall- Until June 17, 2012, 7:58 AM
Broken Loose- Until June 17, 2012, 7:58 AM
Banpower1- Until June 17, 2012, 7:58 AM
TealC Apophis- Until June 6, 2012, 10:00 PM
Arash- Until June 6, 2012, 10:00 PM
Howard Roark- Until June 6, 2012, 10:00 PM
Maarak- Until June 6, 2012, 10:00 PM
Herb Derpman- Until June 6, 2012, 10:00 PM
Airbeat- Until June 6, 2012, 10:00 PM
Carlos Francis- Until May 13, 2012, 2:38 PM
Pomeranian- Until May 13, 2012, 2:38 PM
Hector Molina- Until May 13, 2012, 2:38 PM
Jonathan- Until May 8, 2012, 8:44 PM
Francis Gerard- Until May 8, 2012, 8:44 PM
Andrew N. Liveris- Until May 8, 2012, 8:44 PM
walker page- Until May 8, 2012, 8:44 PM
Bill Gates- Until May 8, 2012, 8:44 PM
BallC- Until May 7, 2012, 10:00 PM

[The Darkling Wolf]

I love how I'm the second one on the list :3

I suppose my 310G profit was noticed quite well.

[Baneling]

I love how I'm the second one on the list :3

I suppose my 310G profit was noticed quite well.

You got permabanned? That's...pretty mean, considering you had nothing to do with it o.o

[Goron]

I love how I'm the second one on the list :3

I suppose my 310G profit was noticed quite well.

You got permabanned? That's...pretty mean, considering you had nothing to do with it o.o

What do you mean? He intentionally, knowingly exploited the situation. His posts here are a clear indication he knew what he was doing, knew that it was wrong, and that he intended to ride the roller coaster to the end with no regard for the results of his actions....
I honestly believe he had it coming...

[The Darkling Wolf]

What? All I did was identified the prices people were willing to buy at and adjusted my prices accordingly

It's not my fault that the people paying those prices were able to do so via money gained from a bug the admin's known about almost since the second it was discovered by the players.

[LoSboccacc]

Nah, you totally deserved that

The more the mess to fix, the more the work or the developer. Real consequences and all that.

It's not like the rules were clear about this very stuff.