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Author Topic: Economies of Scale *Free Browser Game*  (Read 324085 times)

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« Reply #1095 on: April 22, 2012, 01:03:44 pm »

As for the whole bit with the shares, I know I could buy up most of the shares, but what is the point of having shares if I can't sell them? I'd rather just avoid the stock market entirely since I don't even understand it beyond "buy low, sell high". I mean, it's not required to go public, right?
Well you can raise cash ranging from 50% of your business to 100%, and then just ignore it entirely. You can use that money to expand your business much faster than you normally could.
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« Reply #1096 on: April 22, 2012, 01:23:17 pm »

As for the whole bit with the shares, I know I could buy up most of the shares, but what is the point of having shares if I can't sell them? I'd rather just avoid the stock market entirely since I don't even understand it beyond "buy low, sell high". I mean, it's not required to go public, right?
Well you can raise cash ranging from 50% of your business to 100%, and then just ignore it entirely. You can use that money to expand your business much faster than you normally could.

Down side is you can't pull money directly out anymore, although as the chairman you can give yourself up to 20% of the company's daily profit. You can also issue dividends daily. Can't put personal money back in though, unless you issue more stock and buy the shares (although that's highly inefficient, since it costs a fortune to issue stock after the IPO and buying stock is going to cost a lot due to it going up with every share purchased).

It's a good way to boost company growth, and it will let you expand faster - but in the end you lose some control of the company.
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« Reply #1097 on: April 22, 2012, 03:43:29 pm »

ARA stock is 20$ now


I have not an idea how it went up from 3$ to 20$ in an hour, but hey
More money to those who invested and stuck with it :D
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« Reply #1098 on: April 22, 2012, 04:18:09 pm »

I can't even invest in stock, because I reset (drops your personal account to 0), and you can't put money in your personal account until you pay off the loan.
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« Reply #1099 on: April 22, 2012, 05:40:04 pm »

As for the whole bit with the shares, I know I could buy up most of the shares, but what is the point of having shares if I can't sell them? I'd rather just avoid the stock market entirely since I don't even understand it beyond "buy low, sell high". I mean, it's not required to go public, right?
Well you can raise cash ranging from 50% of your business to 100%, and then just ignore it entirely. You can use that money to expand your business much faster than you normally could.

That doesn't answer my question. Is it mandatory to go public?
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« Reply #1100 on: April 22, 2012, 05:43:11 pm »

As for the whole bit with the shares, I know I could buy up most of the shares, but what is the point of having shares if I can't sell them? I'd rather just avoid the stock market entirely since I don't even understand it beyond "buy low, sell high". I mean, it's not required to go public, right?
Well you can raise cash ranging from 50% of your business to 100%, and then just ignore it entirely. You can use that money to expand your business much faster than you normally could.

That doesn't answer my question. Is it mandatory to go public?
It is not.
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« Reply #1101 on: April 22, 2012, 05:47:49 pm »

I bought up 42% of Urist Inc. Is that one of you guys?
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« Reply #1102 on: April 22, 2012, 05:54:04 pm »

yes im Urist Inc.
the plan is to make money and pay Dividends.
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« Reply #1103 on: April 22, 2012, 06:51:45 pm »

Cool. Good luck. And don't feel obligated to pay dividends if you need the money - investing the early profits in continued company growth would probably be a better long-term strategy.
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« Reply #1104 on: April 22, 2012, 06:57:48 pm »

I've become the proud owner of IMG... with a whopping 2 shares... seeing its situation, it is salvageable... so I bought up half the shares.

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« Reply #1105 on: April 22, 2012, 07:22:11 pm »

Hehe, I did the same with Microsoft the other day. Although my daily interest is 100 mil, so im still not quite sure how salvageable it will be. Will have to see how much cash I can start pulling in.

I'm moving into a bunch of markets in the hope of making loads of money to start paying down the 10 billion loan. Getting into aluminum, aluminum cans, steel, glass, glass bottles, silica sand, natural gas, water, plastic, plastic bottles, and plastic jugs. And I plan to start researching some appliances soon too. Plus I have electronics stores selling electronics and appliances.
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« Reply #1106 on: April 22, 2012, 07:33:07 pm »

So if I wanted to use the company's money, Rommney Inc., to improve my players situation what would be the best way to do that?

I was thinking pay myself of a huge bonus first of all (hello 20%) and then using that to buy stock. Then as the company issue more stock so I can buy more, and so on and so on. Increasing my share of the compnay driving the price higher and higher until I have like 80% or so ownership and then initiate a buyback, at which point I sell 30% of my shares that should have greatly increased in value by now. Good idea or bad idea?
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« Reply #1107 on: April 22, 2012, 08:06:07 pm »

The 20% bonus is only on profits, and issuing more stock costs the company a good bit of money. Buyback isn't implemented yet, although you could sell your own shares when the price goes up.

Your best bet if you want to make personal money with a public company would be to just make the company profitable. 20% of profits on a good company can be nice money, and in the future if you want to sell it off the stock will be worth more.
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« Reply #1108 on: April 22, 2012, 08:12:22 pm »

The 20% bonus is only on profits, and issuing more stock costs the company a good bit of money. Buyback isn't implemented yet, although you could sell your own shares when the price goes up.

Your best bet if you want to make personal money with a public company would be to just make the company profitable. 20% of profits on a good company can be nice money, and in the future if you want to sell it off the stock will be worth more.
Do you think I should take the 20% and od nothing with it though, found another privite comapny, or buy stock?
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« Reply #1109 on: April 22, 2012, 08:26:45 pm »

That's up to you. If you intend to stick with the company for the long haul, buying more stock wouldn't hurt - but running a side company would probably be more profitable, since stock prices are generally pretty inflated. Depends on the price at the time.

Right now that company has a net worth probably around 65 mil (since it has 65 mil shares and just did the IPO), and the market cap is 590 million. So it's inflated by about 9 times it's actual worth, so it will probably have a downward trend in price. Unless people keep buying it, in which case it'd keep going on up.
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