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« Reply #915 on: April 19, 2012, 02:04:30 am »

I'm really, REALLY biting at the bit for the store layout overhaul. I've gotten to the point where I'm getting bored with making massive profit. I dabble mostly in retail and I've made ludicrous amounts of cash, however, having to restock 6 different stores 3 times a day to keep the cash flowing is just plain stupid with the current layout. I understand that having a research/production queue is pretty important, but in my opinion the store layout overhaul is a little more important. It takes one of the ways to progress in the game and makes it 'doable'. For example, the supermarket is an excellent source of income, but the process of stocking it is so tedious that there are hardly any people doing it for longer than a few days.

A production and research queue isn't quite as drastic. You can write down the time when your bananas or r&d will finish and can log in quickly to start something else. That takes 5 minutes, whereas stocking most stores can take up to an hour depending on how precise you are about finding the best deals.

Oh well.. it's coming. Eventually. Maybe. Won't hold my breath, but I want to.

I went a more sane route for keeping stores.  Instead of having a company with 6 different stores I have 6 companies with 1 type of store each.  It cuts down the time needed especially when each of those companies are producing what they sell.
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« Reply #916 on: April 19, 2012, 04:24:09 am »

Dear god.  I had like 4M net worth today, and thought that since all my orders were on long timers and I hadn't sold anything recently, I might be able to put off the jump to level 5.

I now have a net worth in the 17M range.
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« Reply #917 on: April 19, 2012, 07:29:43 am »

The food prices are rising, the currency is inflating, right now million is not what million used to be. My revenue has exploded, I make 5x more than I made in Tuesday. I just wished that food prices were realistic. What was the last time you've paid $100 for salami? I wonder how much a pizza would cost with these prices...
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« Reply #918 on: April 19, 2012, 07:30:24 am »

The food prices are rising, the currency is inflating, right now million is not what million used to be. My revenue has exploded, I make 5x more than I made in Tuesday. I just wished that food prices were realistic. What was the last time you've paid $100 for salami? I wonder how much a pizza would cost with these prices...
Use your imagination. Its $100 for a case of salami, not one package.
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« Reply #919 on: April 19, 2012, 08:13:51 am »

Huh? I thought interest on loans was 1%? It charged me 3%.

Maybe having such a big loan was a bad idea, haha. I was expecting to pay 500k for interest, which wouldn't have been so bad. It charged me 1,500,000.
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« Reply #920 on: April 19, 2012, 08:39:00 am »

The food prices are rising, the currency is inflating, right now million is not what million used to be. My revenue has exploded, I make 5x more than I made in Tuesday. I just wished that food prices were realistic. What was the last time you've paid $100 for salami? I wonder how much a pizza would cost with these prices...

Only the import market changed really. The price to actually produce stuff is the same. People could still drive the prices down with competition, it just makes the market more player friendly since they can set their own prices rather than compete with imports.
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« Reply #921 on: April 19, 2012, 08:42:54 am »

The food prices are rising, the currency is inflating, right now million is not what million used to be. My revenue has exploded, I make 5x more than I made in Tuesday. I just wished that food prices were realistic. What was the last time you've paid $100 for salami? I wonder how much a pizza would cost with these prices...
Use your imagination. Its $100 for a case of salami, not one package.

But then people buy cases of them at once. Maybe a nuclear holocaust is on sights? It's not really a game-breaker anyway, just that I don't like inflation because I like million having a million's worth.
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« Reply #922 on: April 19, 2012, 08:48:49 am »

The food prices are rising, the currency is inflating, right now million is not what million used to be. My revenue has exploded, I make 5x more than I made in Tuesday. I just wished that food prices were realistic. What was the last time you've paid $100 for salami? I wonder how much a pizza would cost with these prices...
Use your imagination. Its $100 for a case of salami, not one package.

But then people buy cases of them at once. Maybe a nuclear holocaust is on sights? It's not really a game-breaker anyway, just that I don't like inflation because I like million having a million's worth.
Who says one person bought it? Perhaps that case of salami was sold to 18 people and total you made $100.
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« Reply #923 on: April 19, 2012, 09:38:14 am »

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frogout bought 30 units of Peanut Butter from your company for a total of $107,787.00 after commission.

I didn't know that dwarven peanut butter is that much of a luxury item.  ???


The food prices are rising, the currency is inflating, right now million is not what million used to be. My revenue has exploded, I make 5x more than I made in Tuesday. I just wished that food prices were realistic. What was the last time you've paid $100 for salami? I wonder how much a pizza would cost with these prices...

It's not really American dollars. Maybe think of it like Singaporean dollars or something :P
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 09:40:41 am by Muz »
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« Reply #924 on: April 19, 2012, 09:39:11 am »

Which reminds me, and this is the actual last thing before I go to bed. Is it general consensus is that if there is a surplus of a certain product you are trying to move off the shelves that you should either lower the prices or have a sale? Because I'm seeing if that works for my farmer's market with maybe ten of my products that weren't selling too well by reducing the prices by 10%.

I would ask this question first: why are you trying to move the product off the shelves? Do you need an influx in capital?
Dropping your price by 10% (assuming everything else stays constant) will cause a 23.457% increase in sales.
Having said that, there is a most-profit-per-tick equilibrium. It is twice the cost of the product to buy/produce. Whenever you deviate from that, you cut into your profits per tick. I can't think of a good reason to ever charge *less* than twice the cost of a good... I guess if you wanted to flood the market with the good to reduce the profit of others. But the reason you'd charge *more* than twice the cost of the good would be when your production can't keep up with your sales.

When you're in that latter case, where you're making a product or buying from the B2B marketplace (and it's a product with not effectively-infinite availability), you have the most choices to make about price point, but the fundamental rule of "minimum 2x cost" still holds.
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« Reply #925 on: April 19, 2012, 09:42:37 am »

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frogout bought 30 units of Peanut Butter from your company for a total of $107,787.00 after commission.

I didn't know that dwarven peanut butter is that much of a luxury item.  ???
I must admit, these are the purchases I do not understand. Inflated by a degree of magnitude I can understand... I went and bought a small number of $31 Watermelon just now, because I was out of Watermelon, and it was the most profitable watermelon available. But at retail, you'll literally make something like $0.01 per tick selling peanut butter at $7,185.80. (You'll also sell less than one jar per *day*.)
I assume, somewhere, somebody is either:
1) Having a laugh as they tank their company
2) Getting frustrated at how nothing they buy sells, because they didn't do any research before jumping in and buying stuff.

I wonder how many companies have been created and destroyed since EoS opened?
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« Reply #926 on: April 19, 2012, 09:46:42 am »

The 2x cost thing only really applies to imports and b2b purchases. Anything you manufacture can almost always be sold to other businesses for more than that. You also have to take into account the fixed costs of your production lines - salaries and building maintenance aren't added to the displayed product cost.

Plus if you sell tons of stuff at a mere 2x displayed cost you're cutting the eventual profit from that market way down - you have a limited amount of consumers after all, and if everyone sells cheap it will eventually screw everyone over profit-wise. Sales drop off when the market gets saturated.
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« Reply #927 on: April 19, 2012, 10:55:02 am »

What has happend? I just want to refill my cafe and there is nothing on the b2b-market? Did i miss something?
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« Reply #928 on: April 19, 2012, 10:59:22 am »

You could buy that one million dollar can of cola :/
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« Reply #929 on: April 19, 2012, 11:16:01 am »

What has happend? I just want to refill my cafe and there is nothing on the b2b-market? Did i miss something?
My guess is that the massive food demand increase has led to the overstock that used to be available on B2B being consumed.
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