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[GenJeFT]

For a fortress of 275 dwarfs I built a 42 bed hopsital with 42 tables, 9 traction beds, its own storage for supplies, and its own water supply, and a dedicated staff of 10 doctors.

The doctors have no labors activated other then the doctor jobs.

Yet nobody is getting treated and the doctors are running around in the flowers outside the fortress...

Is this normal?

Good lord if I get attacked by anything serious this fortress is gona die.

[Psieye]

Doctor personalities matter so much more than their skills. You want doctors with high altruism and impulsiveness. Especially your chief medical dwarf. This is why I don't have doctors - every non-specialist does doctor work.

[Stil]

Even if you've got a very good diagnoser turn the labour on with all dorfs, they can't be treated until they are diagnosed - that might be the rate determining step here.

[Stil]

Even if you've got a very good diagnoser turn the labour on with all medical dorfs, they can't be treated until they are diagnosed - that might be the rate determining step here.

[Broseph Stalin]

I've never noticed any difference with skill level in regards to medicine so I just assign all my dwarves all the labors. I think that "dabbling surgeon" must be the most terrifying words in the dwarven language.

[Carnes]

I agree with Stil.  I let all the doctors diagnose, not just the CMD.  It's also a good idea to keep them semi-confined to the hospital.  I build a small cafeteria, offices, and quarters for the doctors.  This way they are always present during a medical emergency.

Can you verify that dwarves are being diagnosed and not treated?  Or perhaps they aren't being diagnosed in the first place?

[Loud Whispers]

I agree with Stil.  I let all the doctors diagnose, not just the CMD.

Only the CMD'll ever diagnose. If there are a large influx of patients, it's good practice to have the CMD have no labours except diagnosing, while the rest of the medical staff deal with the patients. The CMD diagnoses them all, then turn his health labours back on.

DF micromanage, it works.

[Broseph Stalin]

Only the CMD'll ever diagnose. If there are a large influx of patients, it's good practice to have the CMD have no labours except diagnosing, while the rest of the medical staff deal with the patients. The CMD diagnoses them all, then turn his health labours back on.

DF micromanage, it works.

That's not accurate. Any dwarf can diagnose, Diagnosing just happens to be the skill related to CMD.

[GenJeFT]

Can you verify that dwarves are being diagnosed and not treated?  Or perhaps they aren't being diagnosed in the first place?

Yes, on average there is a three day wait from diagnosis to treatment. Once was a month.

[AWdeV]

Yeah, in my last fort I had 27 children each with all medical skills enabled. After a gruelling siege, I had my CMD suturing, a peasant performing surgery, 3 kids diagnosing, a sixth suturing, 7 and 8 dressing wounds and one more applying a cast. Also a mason and a miner helping.

For doctors, you'll want anyone who rates above 61 on the Altruism scale. Not for quality but for quantity. 1 treatment from a dabbling doc is better than 0 from a legendary.

[killerx243]

Yeah dwarven healthcare is a low priority...

My suspected vampire took up a military position and was told he was to stand on top of a bridge. Someone got orders to test the drop pit functionality and he fell 5 z-levels onto steel spears. After breaking almost all of his bones and having more holes punched in him then a colander he was brought to the hospital unable to walk, unable to hold things, sensory nerve damage, and unable to breathe (how they did not figure something was up I will never know).

He was on a bed until he needed surgery and was moved to the table next to him, he is now permanently on this table and every so often he is moved to the other table for a few seconds then placed back on the first one without receiving treatment. This has gone on for about a month (my suspicions on if he was a vampire are proved since he hasn't breathed since the "accident"). He is now suffering from blood loss and infection and since he is stuck in the hospital I can't drop him again.

Anyway the moral of the story is dwarven healthcare is harmful for your dwarves.... But great for leaving vampires useless for a few centuries (or killing them with malpractice assuming they can die from infection). 

[lordcooper]

They're dwarves.  Of course they're meant to be incompetent.

[AWdeV]

@Killerx243;   

If you want him patched up, look for a dwarf who has any of these three:    
is truly fulfilled by assisting those in need
finds helping others very rewarding
finds helping others rewarding

And give him/her healthcare labours.

If you don't want him patched up but want a doctor regardless, build a wall around this sucka and lock him in.

[Telgin]

Doctor personalities matter so much more than their skills. You want doctors with high altruism and impulsiveness. Especially your chief medical dwarf. This is why I don't have doctors - every non-specialist does doctor work.

I can't emphasize this enough.  In my current fort, I have two doctors.  My chief medical dwarf does the first thing that comes to mind, enjoys helping others and other related personality traits.  She always jumps to help the injured, and is an absolute saint.  The other I think has sutured one injured dwarf.  I had a construction accident that badly injured two dwarves.  He spent a lot of time sleeping, drinking, on break, and so on, while she was busy saving their lives.

If I'd left it up to my second doctor, at least one of those dwarves would surely be dead, and maybe both.

[killerx243]

@Killerx243;   

If you want him patched up, look for a dwarf who has any of these three:    
is truly fulfilled by assisting those in need
finds helping others very rewarding
finds helping others rewarding

And give him/her healthcare labours.

If you don't want him patched up but want a doctor regardless, build a wall around this sucka and lock him in.

Either way I want him dead, or at least found out for being a vampire for not breathing...