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Author Topic: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?  (Read 20294 times)

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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2012, 04:36:11 pm »

Pray for a Lasher Lord.
Worthless.  Whips hurt by chipping bone and causing creatures to give in to pain.  Husks and thralls feel no pain.  10,000 slade whips wielded by 10,000 lasher lords would do nothing.

So that's why my lasher adventurers always have so much trouble with the undead.

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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2012, 04:37:01 pm »

It might also be worth following a policy of using adamantine weapons with steel armour. That way if one of the dwarves does get enthralled then you still have a chance of damaging its armour. So you keep the adamantine as a reserve against thralls etc.

Better yet, seal it off, THEN break out the adamantine kit. If there's anything more scary than a steel-clad axelord thrall, it's a steel-clad axelord thrall with a freaking adamantine battleaxe.
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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 04:42:52 pm »

Pray for a Lasher Lord.
Worthless.  Whips hurt by chipping bone and causing creatures to give in to pain.  Husks and thralls feel no pain.  10,000 slade whips wielded by 10,000 lasher lords would do nothing.

I was thinking more along the lines of them being lightsabres which can destroy the victim's brain regardless of whether or not it is wearing a helmet. Pain schmain, it needs a brain to be able to hurt you.

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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2012, 04:44:07 pm »

Also worthless, as thralls have [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT] and thus brain-death is not death at all.

Thralls are truly terrifying things.

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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 04:44:13 pm »

Pray for a Lasher Lord.
Worthless.  Whips hurt by chipping bone and causing creatures to give in to pain.  Husks and thralls feel no pain.  10,000 slade whips wielded by 10,000 lasher lords would do nothing.

I was thinking more along the lines of them being lightsabres which can destroy the victim's brain regardless of whether or not it is wearing a helmet. Pain schmain, it needs a brain to be able to hurt you.



That doesn't kill husks.  Husks can only be killed by actually cutting off the head or the body.
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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 04:46:56 pm »

I thought of that, but there wasn't really any way for me to organize my civilians into anything. The thrall stuck himself in the hallway that all of my other fortress areas branched off of, so you had to go through him to get anywhere. that means practically any job would get cancelled, or you'd die trying to pull it off.

And that's exactly why you should always have a doomsday lever which collapses the entire mountain on the fortress installed beforehand. Just in case.

When in doubt always pull the lever.
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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2012, 04:46:57 pm »

Also worthless, as thralls have [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT] and thus brain-death is not death at all.

Thralls are truly terrifying things.

Huh, so which option is it for setting something to be a thrall in the arena? Evidently I'm not using the right one if that's the case.
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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2012, 04:47:41 pm »

Also worthless, as thralls have [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT] and thus brain-death is not death at all.

Thralls are truly terrifying things.

Huh, so which option is it for setting something to be a thrall in the arena? Evidently I'm not using the right one if that's the case.

Thralls aren't normally testable in the arena.  You need a custom interaction with an arena name for the syndrome to replicate the effect.
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2012, 04:48:56 pm »

It's funny, you know? I was absolutely convinced that not only was my fortress safe, it was far safer than even necessary. This is actually the first Fun of this scale I've had since the events in my comic (see sig). Awesome!

EDIT: decided to reclaim, and have a few options to kill this guy. Managed to seal off most of the fort, with my dwarves in there. Now, I have access to a little magma (not nearly enough to flood the area he's in, but enough to set all the stuff in there ablaze - there's the bodies and possessions of hundreds of dwarves he's standing on, a lot of which is flammable).

Any idea if fire will kill it?

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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2012, 04:52:46 pm »

Thralls aren't normally testable in the arena.  You need a custom interaction with an arena name for the syndrome to replicate the effect.

Well in that case, what is a “Cursed”? It isn’t a Necromancer, Zombie, Vampire, Werebeast, Mummy or Thrall...
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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2012, 04:53:54 pm »

Thralls aren't normally testable in the arena.  You need a custom interaction with an arena name for the syndrome to replicate the effect.

Well in that case, what is a “Cursed”? It isn’t a Necromancer, Zombie, Vampire, Werebeast, Mummy or Thrall...

Your "cursed" when you engage a mummy in it's tomb, it kills you after three days or something.
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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2012, 04:55:03 pm »

It's funny, you know? I was absolutely convinced that not only was my fortress safe, it was far safer than even necessary. This is actually the first Fun of this scale I've had since the events in my comic (see sig). Awesome!

EDIT: decided to reclaim, and have a few options to kill this guy. Managed to seal off most of the fort, with my dwarves in there. Now, I have access to a little magma (not nearly enough to flood the area he's in, but enough to set all the stuff in there ablaze - there's the bodies and possessions of hundreds of dwarves he's standing on, a lot of which is flammable).

Any idea if fire will kill it?

Fire doesn't kill husks, since it doesn't bleed to death.  They'll just keep burning forever, then you'll have the slight problem of having to confront zombies on fire.
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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2012, 04:55:55 pm »

Your "cursed" when you engage a mummy in it's tomb, it kills you after three days or something.

Well there you go, I didn't know that one.

Allow me to slap myself on the wrist sarcastically for not playing adventure mode.
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Re: One Thrall Killed 249 Dorfs. Help?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2012, 04:57:20 pm »

It's funny, you know? I was absolutely convinced that not only was my fortress safe, it was far safer than even necessary. This is actually the first Fun of this scale I've had since the events in my comic (see sig). Awesome!

EDIT: decided to reclaim, and have a few options to kill this guy. Managed to seal off most of the fort, with my dwarves in there. Now, I have access to a little magma (not nearly enough to flood the area he's in, but enough to set all the stuff in there ablaze - there's the bodies and possessions of hundreds of dwarves he's standing on, a lot of which is flammable).

Any idea if fire will kill it?

Fire doesn't kill husks, since it doesn't bleed to death.  They'll just keep burning forever, then you'll have the slight problem of having to confront zombies on fire.


Important reasons not to, but if your a true dwarf, you'd ignore all this and....


KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!
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« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2012, 05:00:29 pm »

As a side note, I think that a big reason why husks are so insanely strong is because of the fact that inorganic enemies in general are nigh-impossible to kill.  That bug is already "acknowledged", so I suspect once better tissue damage gets patched in, dealing with them won't be as crushingly painful. (relatively speaking, you still have the inhuman strength and infection risk at hand anyway)
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