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[Cerol Lenslens]

I wasn't into Magic was the original Ravnica came out, so I can't see what everyone's so excited about. I mean, like literally everyone on the official forums were crying and wailing for a Return to Ravnica without end, so I'm sure it must be awesome, but from what I can see it was just a bunch of warring guilds and multicolored cards.

I think it has a lot to do with the tournament environment, which I personally couldn't care less about.

It was the set that came in after Mirrodin rotated out, and so Standard suddenly lost the ridiculous nastiness of Affinity, (which was dominating the tournament scene) while gaining a bunch of cards that were far less overspecialized and underpowered than the Kamigawa block that had immediately followed Mirrodin. So, we got a more diverse metagame and decent power creep, which folks associate with Ravnica itself rather than its placement.

In Ravnica's defense, though, it also introduced hybrid mana, (which allowed for multicolored cards that were actually easier to cast) as well as greatly enabling tri-colored decks, which would then be supported by at least three different guilds' mechanics. Each guild felt different, and had at least one fun legend running around in it. (Yes, each guild had two legends, but a lot of the secondaries were just 2/2s that did minor things when you cast spells in their colors. Decent, yes. Interesting? Less so.)

tl;dr = I liked Ravnica, but don't think it quite deserves the hype. I'm still looking forward to it, but not enough to say "Screw Avacyn Restored! Fast forward 5 months NAOW!" like a lot of folks seem to be doing. Angels vs. Demons 2.0 looks like it'll be fun too, y'know.

[Powder Miner]

Me to Avacyn Restored cards:

Quick note- MY first deck was M12, but I really started playing in Innistrad here, so I'm excited to see what comes out here!
I also tend to browse gatherer sometimes, and I found Ravnica quite interesting. I'm excited to see what the next few sets will be eeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!! Avacyn Restoredeeee!!!! More of the guilds (yes!)

(deep breathing) What are your favorite cards?

Mine is Unsummon.

[JoshuaFH]

I'm glad we're keeping Undying in AVR, I love undying so much. Also glad we're ditching DFC's since I always thought they were annoying, just in their management and how they clutter up the stack and the number of things that need to be remembered. While it's easy enough to do in MTG:O, which manages it for you automatically, they're just difficult in RL.

I'm still on the fence about Miracle and Soulbond. Keep be great, could be terrible. I hope there's scrying equivalents besides ponders that are put in standard to make Miracle a serious mechanic.

I wouldn't say I have a favorite card. I try to love them all equally, so it makes me angry that they're not all made equally.

EDIT: Also, in preparation for M13, I've taken the time to finish up collecting all the cards for all the decks in M12. Tezzeret's AI butt has never been more sore.

[RedKing]

Being beaten to death by a deck with no creatures whatsoever, and consistently at that, is ridiculous. Enchantments and hard to remove creatures just seem tame by comparison.

Go on MTG:O, face anyone with a Burning Vengeance deck. You wouldn't think they'd be as hard to beat as they are.

I remember in the old MTG computer game, there was a prebuilt green/black deck (Centaur Shaman) that focused mostly on "inflict damage each turn/on tap"-type enchantments. Could be horrifying to play against some times. Your artifacts were steadily killing you, your creatures were steadily killing you, your enchantments were steadily killing you, and if you tried to cast something to fix the situation, tapping your lands damaged you.

[Powder Miner]

Lifesmith is AMAZING with Chalice of life.

[penguinofhonor]

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[JoshuaFH]

I feel really bad for the people that are forced to focus on blurry images and try to make out the unintelligible text.

[Cerol Lenslens]

Being beaten to death by a deck with no creatures whatsoever, and consistently at that, is ridiculous. Enchantments and hard to remove creatures just seem tame by comparison.

Go on MTG:O, face anyone with a Burning Vengeance deck. You wouldn't think they'd be as hard to beat as they are.

I remember in the old MTG computer game, there was a prebuilt green/black deck (Centaur Shaman) that focused mostly on "inflict damage each turn/on tap"-type enchantments. Could be horrifying to play against some times. Your artifacts were steadily killing you, your creatures were steadily killing you, your enchantments were steadily killing you, and if you tried to cast something to fix the situation, tapping your lands damaged you.

I loved the old Microprose game. I'm still waiting for Wizards to make a new set: "Arzakon Reborn" 

Surely that 4000+ years he got reimprisoned for has passed by now, going by the timeline. (In fact, he was my top suspect for smashing Alara, up until Wizards revealed that it was all on Progenitus.)

[JoshuaFH]

Being beaten to death by a deck with no creatures whatsoever, and consistently at that, is ridiculous. Enchantments and hard to remove creatures just seem tame by comparison.

Go on MTG:O, face anyone with a Burning Vengeance deck. You wouldn't think they'd be as hard to beat as they are.

I remember in the old MTG computer game, there was a prebuilt green/black deck (Centaur Shaman) that focused mostly on "inflict damage each turn/on tap"-type enchantments. Could be horrifying to play against some times. Your artifacts were steadily killing you, your creatures were steadily killing you, your enchantments were steadily killing you, and if you tried to cast something to fix the situation, tapping your lands damaged you.

I loved the old Microprose game. I'm still waiting for Wizards to make a new set: "Arzakon Reborn" 

Surely that 4000+ years he got reimprisoned for has passed by now, going by the timeline. (In fact, he was my top suspect for smashing Alara, up until Wizards revealed that it was all on Progenitus.)

I actually completed reading a Let's Play for that, and I think that would be amazing, if only due to the dedication to attention to detail and the effort taken in remembering all those little things in the past.

Let's hope that he's one of Lilliana's demon masters... somehow

[JoshuaFH]

Here's a complete listing of all the cards spoiled thus far:

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29048143/Avacyn_Restored_ICD_Index_Thread

[JoshuaFH]

So the latest and greatest PW has been revealed finally:



I still can't wrap my head around it, I thought for sure it was going to be Dack Fayden, a PW revealed in the MTG comics. Tamiyo is out of left field completely, nobody expected it and in fact this is her first appearance in MTG.

Also, oddly enough she's a PW from Kamigawa that's simply existed in the background and plansewalked to Innistrad to study the silver moon, which IIRC shouldn't be possible since Kamigawa existed before the mending, which is what made PW Sparks possible in the first place.

[Cerol Lenslens]

So the latest and greatest PW has been revealed finally:



I still can't wrap my head around it, I thought for sure it was going to be Dack Fayden, a PW revealed in the MTG comics. Tamiyo is out of left field completely, nobody expected it and in fact this is her first appearance in MTG.

Also, oddly enough she's a PW from Kamigawa that's simply existed in the background and plansewalked to Innistrad to study the silver moon, which IIRC shouldn't be possible since Kamigawa existed before the mending, which is what made PW Sparks possible in the first place.

You mean Neowalkers, the PW cards, since technically planeswalkers were always around, but were too powerful to represent with cards. After all, you the player were representing one.

But there's nothing impossible about it. Kamigawa's storyline certainly did happen before the Mending. The plane, and its various species, did not disappear afterwards, so any old-school 'walkers it produced would just have been depowered like Bolas was, and it is still capable of producing new neowalkers just like any other plane.

Also, the other PW for the set has been previewed. Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded.

[penguinofhonor]

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[Powder Miner]

Two iron Myr, Two Myr Galvanizers, burn spells in your hand, and Tamiyo's ultimate emblem on the field.
INFINITE BURN E'ERYWHEEEERE

[nenjin]

I started playing Magic when the Dark expansion released. I played through Fallen Empires to the release and went all in on buying a box of Ice Age with some friends....god that expansion blew. From there on I stopped following the game.

But yeah those first few years playing Magic were amazing and the cards worked on your imagination in incredible ways. Once I hit the point where people were building decks to win instead of decks for fun, I kinda fell off as I'm not that big into competitions (nor did I have the money or the tactics to win.)

One day I learned some friends came up with a variant for Magic called "Super Magic."

It has one major caveat in that cards must be collectively owned for it to work.

So you start out with ALL lands in one deck, and ALL other spells in another deck. Our decks are typically 500+ cards.

Everyone draws some starting land and gets a few spells. From there on out you can either draw from the land deck or the spell deck. Being that land and spells are random, it balances out the ability to basically draw unlimited land.

What you get from either deck is what you have to work with. It totally changes the nature of the game from when you're playing with custom built "Fuck You" decks, and really makes the game more about random chance and adapting to what you have at the moment. Tons of fun and really reminded me why Magic is still such a great game.