Alright, so, lurking past the deadline was a major fuckup on my part. Lurking afterwards wasn't good either, but I've had a lot to catch up on.
Toony:Well well, I have a much better feeling with Flandre and Darvi. Scum don't bust their partners Day 1, I'm not going to even argue this.
Gonna stop LURKING IronyOwl?? Share some thoughts man!
I'm forced to agree that Darvi and Flandre are most likely town (or at least, were on a different team than Tiruin). It's not so much that they bussed him as that they bussed him hard with (at least in Flandre's case, I forget what exactly Darvi was on about) valid reasons, and he seemed to be fighting back.
You I don't really think this clears at all, since I could totally see Tiruin thinking that he was useless and bound to be lynched sooner or later anyway so you might as well look town by bussing him. Fortunately for you, I don't think you're scum regardless.
I'm actually shocked Toaster was killed and not one of the lynchers, I feel so bad for you Toaster what did you even do this time.
Which is really, really handy for you here, because this is just straight up retarded scummy bullshit. "MAN I'M SO SURPRISED THE PEOPLE LYNCHING TIRUIN DIDN'T DIE BECAUSE I'D TOTALLY EXPECT SCUM TO WANT TO KILL THEM AFTER HOW AWESOMELY TOWN THEY WERE AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE WRECKING SCUM'S SHIT."
Declare yourself to be hypereffective obvtown more, it'll convince everyone you're not scum. I really hope this was a halfassed attempt at reaction fishing and not genuine surprise.
Toony, why all of this speculation about why scum killed who?
This is pretty stupid. I'm actually surprised by this. Isn't it better to well, figure out who scum are? I mean by how Day 1 went we can infer who are more likely scum by how they interacted with Tiruin. Unless you know something we don't know etc etc
This is also scummy as shit, which Darvi pretty much nailed below.
So you're excusing your buddying with wine that can be caused by an early bus?
No no no, I will simply not accept this. That's so fucking stupid. Do you remember how the day ended? I got back from classes 30 minutes beforehand and it was still a tie. I broke the tie by voting Tiruin, who was scum, there's no way in hell I would ever do that as scum. I would shoot myself.
Which you then deflect with a blatant refusal to understand the purpose of bussing.
Seriously, I'm not getting a scum vibe from you, but I find it hard to object to anyone who wants to lynch your dumb ass.
Tiruin: Hypothetically, you are scum. Who do you want as your two scumbuddies?
Toaster and IronyOwl. From my experience, they work well with their wordplay and know how to handle themselves.
Thanks to my prodding on his hypocrisy he finally squeezed out this answer. We already know Toaster is town and I have this thing where I list my scum buddies as one real and one fake. Maybe Tiruin does the same thing. How does this make you feel IronyOwl?
Completely neutral. We're both good players, and I have no particular reason to think Tiruin does some retarded pattern instead of just answering the question.
Fuck you dipshit
You've just admitted he's town. What's more, he caught scum, as opposed to reluctantly swinging towards scum at the last minute to break a tie. Who's the dipshit here again?
Also, Dariush is seeming unusually townlike. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
And third parties are the only real threat to competent players.
Ah, you are reaction fishing. Perhaps you should do something useful instead.
Yeah I believe Zombie Urist is likely town now as well because of his arguments yesterday(game-time) at the end.
Go on.
Flandre:The first thing that I would like to say is that Zombie Urist is likely town; the argument he set up against me last night was designed to bear more weight after his flip. He really does believe that I am scum.
I don't see your logic. Could you elaborate?
Only a condemned townie would devise an argument against someone with his/her own role-flip in mind. If Zombie died and flipped town, everything he posted would have been sincere, and that includes his last-minute attack on me. It turned out that ZU didn't die after all, so he had something like a Mafia-Style Near-Death ExperienceŽ.
I don't see why scum would react any differently, though, since it'd make them look town. What exactly makes you think he was banking on dying, as opposed to just making whatever arguments he could prior to possibly dying?
Shakerag:Way to not read anything after that post, Dariush. In addition to my reasons from yesterday, I'll add on that I can't bring myself to believe that ToonyMan is D1 bussing scum, so your continued crusade against ToonyMan feels even more like you're trying to get him mislynched because he's on to you. Oh, and, you know, trying to start off D2 by voting me and somehow ignoring that I did post reasons for voting you before the end of D1.
So you don't see anything Toony is doing that's scummy in its own right?
From my perspective, it looks like ToonyMan is shaking quite a few trees, and that's making some people very nervous. I'm inclined to think that Darvi isn't scum for the same reasons I think ToonyMan isn't scum, but there's always the possibility that Darvi could be 3rd party.
What makes you suspicious of Darvi? Why might Darvi be third party but Flandre or ToonyMan not?
Orangebottle:And yeah, I think you're probably scum Orangebottle. You saw that you could vote Zombie easily and went for it. I'm pretty confident his replies weren't insincere at all.
And where did this happen? I don't remember saying that Zombie was lying.
I'm talking about Zombie himself, not you. Good that you are trying to take blame for yourself though I guess.
...Oookay? The way you structured your post makes it seem like you're accusing me of falsely accusing him of lying.
Why so nervous here? I would have thought ToonyMan making a poorly worded post and then attacking you over it would be an excellent thing to push him on. Instead you sound defensive and innocently confused. Did he strike too close to home with that zombie urist comment?