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nopil3os

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on elven diplomacy
« on: April 05, 2012, 08:33:10 am »
in my 31.x world, they killed the king of my civ and since then i want revenge.
what is the best way to get them to attack me?
i tried offering them wood. i killed about 5 caravans in a row. i killed caravans and let only one survivor badly wounded return to tell them his story. i seized every other caravan.
i don't want to kill their diplomat though, since i reinstated him back into the game only recently via dfhack and fear i will have to do that over and over again..

oh and do underground trees count in the elven lumber limits? i want to double or triple the limit to see if that triggers an elven siege..
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 08:53:53 am »
Killing the elven diplomat is the only reliable way to trigger a war.

I'm not really familiar with the dfhack method of adding the diplomat in, I usually add the diplomat in the old-fashioned way by modding the entity raws.  If the dfhack method is doing the same thing, you won't have to perform the hack more than once.  If you kill the diplomat, the elves will just appoint a new one.  Actually, they'll appoint a new diplomat every year regardless of whether you kill him or not, thanks to the bug that makes position holders lose their position when they leave the map.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 08:59:09 am »
okay, dead diplomat it is.
what about the lumber limits? are they causing anything other than annoying me?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 09:16:01 am by nopil3os »
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 10:26:41 am »
Quote from: nopil3os on April 05, 2012, 08:59:09 am
okay, dead diplomat it is.
what about the lumber limits? are they causing anything other than annoying me?
They cause war too, but no worries about that.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 10:28:39 am »
Pfft, elves are like the 'good' kobolds.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2012, 10:35:02 am »
but a different taste, fruitier
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2012, 10:36:30 am »
They wipe their asses with bark too.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 10:40:43 am »
Kobolds are most definitely not like Elves!

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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 10:43:38 am »
I suppose elves have ALOT more balls than the kobolds..

Honestly, you have to appreciate the sheer ball-size of the elves, they look like they have prostate cancer!

The balls they have to have to be able to tell US DWARVES to not chop trees down? HUGE BALLS.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2012, 10:45:14 am »
Quote from: SRD on April 05, 2012, 10:43:38 am
I suppose elves have ALOT more balls than the kobolds..

Honestly, you have to appreciate the sheer ball-size of the elves, they look like they have prostate cancer!

The balls they have to have to be able to tell US DWARVES to not chop trees down? HUGE BALLS.

...And the kobolds have the balls to steal from us, and the goblins have the balls to attack us. Point invalid.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2012, 10:48:03 am »
They all squeal the same to me.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2012, 10:49:01 am »
The Elves are telling some hairy midgets to not cut down trees. I don't think they've seen the things Kobolds have.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2012, 10:49:55 am »
No, the kobolds 'try' to steal, then they run away like pussies. The elves are strict bitches, if you start a war with them, they actually fight you. They don't retreat.
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2012, 10:50:36 am »
kobolds: sneaky buggers
goblins: dumb cannonfodder
elves: arrogant bastards
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Re: on elven diplomacy
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2012, 10:52:28 am »
Quote from: SRD on April 05, 2012, 10:43:38 am
I suppose elves have ALOT more balls than the kobolds..

Honestly, you have to appreciate the sheer ball-size of the elves, they look like they have prostate cancer!

The balls they have to have to be able to tell US DWARVES to not chop trees down? HUGE BALLS.
I say they're all bark, no bite... Forgive the pun. I'm serious, though. Only their archers are worth much of anything, and even those are poorly-equipped as far as armor goes.
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