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I consider it an essential part of Dwaf Fortress, and can't play without it.

119 (18.4%)

I use it for pretty screenshots, but otherwise don't use it during play.

211 (32.7%)

I only try it occasionally.

174 (27%)

I have no idea why I'm even in this thread, I don't use it.

141 (21.9%)

Total Members Voted: 642

[NorthSouthWest]

Is there any way i can integrate this mod with my vanilla DF if I'm on a Mac?

[PeridexisErrant]

Get this pack for Mac, which includes it.  In DF terms this is a utility, not a mod - it's a separate program rather than content changes. 

[Octopusfluff]

FWIW:  I know two other people who play DF, and about thirty who say they would play if you could use Stonesense instead of the tileset. 

I have to echo this: I know a lot of people who would play if this works out the way we hope.

For myself, I used to spend a lot of time playing DF with stonesense, but it hit a point where the cognitive load of dealing with the native DF interface was too much. I'm pretty much waiting on that before I can get back into it.

[NorthSouthWest]

Get this pack for Mac, which includes it.  In DF terms this is a utility, not a mod - it's a separate program rather than content changes.

What i meant to ask was if there was a way to download and use only the stone sense program itself, without any other add ons.

[fricy]

Get this pack for Mac, which includes it.  In DF terms this is a utility, not a mod - it's a separate program rather than content changes.

What i meant to ask was if there was a way to download and use only the stone sense program itself, without any other add ons.

Stonesense needs DFhack to read the data from the game. You can get the original DFhack pack from it's thread if you really want that, but it will be mostly the same as the MacNewbie pack, only without finetuning, updates and the external utilities.

[milo christiansen]

I guess I feel the need to clarify my vote. I would use stonesense but every time I use it DF crashes at some time later. Generally it works fine for a while then suddenly CTDs, even if stonesense is no longer running...

And so my vote goes to "Hardly Ever"

[fricy]

Just dropping this here: Stonesense on macs crashes on 10.9 too.

Stonesense doesn't work on 10.9.1 for me (haven't tried on 10.9). When I enter 'stonesense' at the dfhack prompt, DF just crashes. Saw the info regarding 10.6.8, but I think it doesn't apply, since dfhack launches fine.

Spoiler: This is the dfhack loader script that works for 10.7 and 10.8: (click to show/hide)

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#!/bin/sh
PWD=`dirname "${0}"`
#thanks to Iriel for figuring this out
OSREV=`uname -r | cut -d. -f1`
if [ "$OSREV" -ge 11 ] ; then
    export DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=./hack/libdfhack.dylib
    export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=${PWD}/hack:${PWD}/libs:${PWD}/stonesense/deplibs
    export DYLD_FRAMEWORK_PATH=${PWD}/hack:${PWD}/libs
    export DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE=1
else
    export DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES=./hack/libdfhack.dylib
    export DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH=${PWD}/hack:${PWD}/libs
    export DYLD_FALLBACK_FRAMEWORK_PATH=${PWD}/hack:${PWD}/libs
fi
cd "${PWD}"; ./dwarfort.exe

If anyone has any idea what to change, just shoot.

[zlurker]

When I try to start up the new version DFHack keeps erroring with the words 'Plugin stonesense has no enabled var'. What does this mean? I have little idea how either one works.

[Rose]

You should be safely able to ignore that.

[zlurker]

Yeah but it errors and causes DFHack to shut down which then makes DF itself close.

[Rose]

It really shouldn't. Either way, once I have time, I need to fix that, but I don't think that's what's casing your crashing.

[Meph]

I just wanted to report that I have seen the "'Plugin stonesense has no enabled var'" once as well. It happened when dfhack r4 booted (with the stonesense version for r4 you did send me), and it instantly crashed. It happened right at the main menu. I did not use stonesense, dfhack, or anything, just started DF. It appeared randomly. I started DF hundrets of times before, and several times after with the same configuration, but I only saw it once.

[Caldfir]

Posting to let people know I'm still alive.  It has been a hectic few months, but it looks like maybe I'll get some time to come back to get some work done for stonesense in the coming weeks. 

[Rose]

Wohoo!

[PeridexisErrant]

Good news all round! Any chance that this could mean an interface breakthrough?