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[McFlow]

Although I would like to contribute more, I cannot do anything else then gasp at Toady's last dev-log:

I added track "stop" constructions, which greatly increase the friction in a square and cause (most) carts to stop (say, blocks, narrowing grooves, whatever might work). These stopping points will generally be where the hauling jobs take place. There are constructed tracks, and bridges now also act as tracks. Pressure plates can be given a weight range for being triggered by carts. I tested it out by making a retracting bridge system that sorted carts by whether or not they were loaded. I knew it was working when I started making little kerchunk sounds at the screen. There are powered "rollers" placed in strips that increase the speed of minecarts in a given direction, up to a point (more than enough to get them up a ramp, anyway). I don't have an engineering sense at all, so you can imagine the rollers to be... whatever you like. Perhaps they even make sense. Carts can also collide with each other, whether they are on the ground or in the air, and are generally one-cart-per-tile, though that can be violated where the code treats them more like general items (I doubt I'll be able to catch all of the cases, but I'll try to get the ones that matter). It will require a bit of tweaking to look good, but I did stack some carts vertically and shot a cart through the air into the middle of the stack, disrupting it, so that was fun.

*GASPS*

[Socializator]

*GASPS*

One doesnt know where to start - if you should focus on infrastructure, stations, multiple lanes, junctions or rather devise an ultimate gobobowling machine or  LCC - Large Cart Collider ...

Personally, this update is most probably be much more interetsting than step from 31 to 34!

[McFlow]

Yes! The possibilities are endless! Although the first application is crystal clear. Weaponize first, use for efficiency purposes later.

[erthel]

Back to TTD mechanics!

http://www.openttd.org/en/

[Symmetry]

So, if the carts go flying and fall in a parabola onto a down ramp with tracks does the cart keep going on the tracks?

[McFlow]

So, if the carts go flying and fall in a parabola onto a down ramp with tracks does the cart keep going on the tracks?

We don't know the features for sure until the update comes out, so these kind of questions are pointless.

[daveralph1234]

There are powered "rollers" placed in strips that increase the speed of minecarts in a given direction, up to a point (more than enough to get them up a ramp, anyway).

Que dwarven space program....

[werechicken]

Also dwarvern rail-gun research. Lead carts (for best momentum to cost ratio) and as many accelerators as possible = instant siege ender

I'm guessing the accelerators will require mechanisms and power. This release is going to lead to a complete redesign of fortresses, possibly cart subways and the occasional water reactor to power the accelerators.

This won't be that useful in mining until there's a big change mineral veins.

[NW_Kohaku]

This won't be that useful in mining until there's a big change mineral veins.

Toady talked about how mining will require the likes of wheelbarrows, so I'm assuming there's going to be a big change in stone and minerals, already.

Some of the threads that popularized different mining and minecart mechanics talked about how mining should not "vaporize" stone and soil, and how debris should need to be cleared out before further mining could be accomplished.  From how Toady talks about the wheelbarrows, presumably, mining will soon cause debris that needs to be cleared out with a minecart or wheelbarrow before it can be traversed or made usable. 

The net effect may be that mining is made much slower, and above-ground forts (or fort sections) may become more popular.

[King Mir]

You'll probably want at least two sets of tracks on every level, so yeah this will be a big change.

I suspect that the carts will continue moving from flight if they land on ramps, at the least.

If they can go under water (and magma), you could send them through water to issolate sections of the track, such as your front gate, so only carts can go through. Great for playing Frogger.

[bombzero]

This won't be that useful in mining until there's a big change mineral veins.

Toady talked about how mining will require the likes of wheelbarrows, so I'm assuming there's going to be a big change in stone and minerals, already.

Some of the threads that popularized different mining and minecart mechanics talked about how mining should not "vaporize" stone and soil, and how debris should need to be cleared out before further mining could be accomplished.  From how Toady talks about the wheelbarrows, presumably, mining will soon cause debris that needs to be cleared out with a minecart or wheelbarrow before it can be traversed or made usable. 

The net effect may be that mining is made much slower, and above-ground forts (or fort sections) may become more popular.

we need better building than, as currently building above ground constructions is an annoying clusterfuck of inefficiency and stupidity.

[FearfulJesuit]

This is always the community's reaction to something new. It's what's best about you guys: first you weaponize it, then you mod it to be a better weapon, then you mod it to be better at its original intention, and then you actually use it the way it was intended to be used.

[werechicken]

I don't think we'll see a change in mining yet. It'd make more sense for toady to make sure carts are fully sorted out and any game breaking bugs are squished before beginning on mineral veins.

Minecart tracks will probably cause the biggest change to fortress design since z levels, at least if you don't want your dwarfs being run down. So it'll probably need a little while to get used to.

[MrWiggles]

Toady already said there was going to be tweaks into mining. And it's implied, that these changes will require the use of wheel barrows.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I hope that we'll be able to turn the rubble into some sort of wall or...something...if there is rubble...