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An interesting development in the US of A
« on: April 03, 2012, 04:50:06 am »

In case you missed it, Several states are trying to take back much of the land that the federal government has snatched up over the years.

This shows all the US land that is federally owned, as opposed to the states themselves.

I'm very interested to see how this will pan out.


edit: oops, linked the wrong article. Put up a more recent one.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2012, 05:04:09 am by Lagslayer »
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 04:53:19 am »

Well the article you linked is from 2 years ago so who knows??
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 05:50:26 am »

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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 06:05:45 am »

How much that is national park?
Alaska being mostly federally owned is a surprised. I thought it was owned by the oil company
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 06:52:41 am »

Alaska being mostly federally owned is a surprised. I thought it was owned by the oil company

Worked by =/= owned, I'd bet a majority of the lands being processed for oil are owned by the federal government and leased to the oil companies.

Though, to be honest, a large amount of the land taken is either reserves, mountains, or otherwise hellish. Except those large tracts of California through western Montana. I never knew so much of the inland northwest was federally owned.
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 07:06:14 am »

In case you missed it, Several states are trying to take back much of the land that the federal government has snatched up over the years.

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Energy: Lawmakers in resource-rich Western states have had enough of Washington's meddling and are moving to take the federal grip off their lands. Their actions could positively impact gasoline prices...

The movement is particularly relevant because in President Obama's feeble attempt to deflect blame for rising gasoline prices, he has repeatedly claimed that oil production has increased during his term. But what he has failed to mention is that the expansion has been on private lands. Production on federal land has fallen since he took office, due to his restrictive policies.

With Washington out of the way, the oil-rich states of New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Montana can unlock their resources that have been trapped by Washington, which itself is captive to radical environmental interests.

Yeah, these guys sound pretty legit.  Clearly the reason gas prices have doubled since 2005 is because President Obama won't let those poor oil companies drill on land owned by the federal government since the 19th century or something.

But yes, most federal land is out in the Rockies.  That's because it assumed ownership of most of that land during the mid-1800s, and gave out huge tracts of land as an incentive to build railways, but there's only so many railways to build and it had a lot of useless mountains and deserts left over.  Useless until modern drill technology came along anyway, and anyone who's seen the rather bleak dreamscapes of endless natural gas wells on federal Colorado land can tell you they're neither "owned" by environmentalists, nor locked off to outside interests.

Pretty irrelevant all around though.  It sounds like Utah decided to ask for a bunch of federal granted to it, and the rest of the West jumped on the bandwagon.  Hey, whatever, if Nevada wants to directly own ungodly swaths of desert, I say let'em.  They have a point, if the federal government actually isn't doing anything with a piece of land, there's no reason for it to own it.
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 07:26:29 am »

In case you missed it, Several states are trying to take back much of the land that the federal government has snatched up over the years.

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Energy: Lawmakers in resource-rich Western states have had enough of Washington's meddling and are moving to take the federal grip off their lands. Their actions could positively impact gasoline prices...

The movement is particularly relevant because in President Obama's feeble attempt to deflect blame for rising gasoline prices, he has repeatedly claimed that oil production has increased during his term. But what he has failed to mention is that the expansion has been on private lands. Production on federal land has fallen since he took office, due to his restrictive policies.

With Washington out of the way, the oil-rich states of New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Montana can unlock their resources that have been trapped by Washington, which itself is captive to radical environmental interests.

Yeah, these guys sound pretty legit.  Clearly the reason gas prices have doubled since 2005 is because President Obama won't let those poor oil companies drill on land owned by the federal government since the 19th century or something.

But yes, most federal land is out in the Rockies.  That's because it assumed ownership of most of that land during the mid-1800s, and gave out huge tracts of land as an incentive to build railways, but there's only so many railways to build and it had a lot of useless mountains and deserts left over.  Useless until modern drill technology came along anyway, and anyone who's seen the rather bleak dreamscapes of endless natural gas wells on federal Colorado land can tell you they're neither "owned" by environmentalists, nor locked off to outside interests.

Pretty irrelevant all around though.  It sounds like Utah decided to ask for a bunch of federal granted to it, and the rest of the West jumped on the bandwagon.  Hey, whatever, if Nevada wants to directly own ungodly swaths of desert, I say let'em.  They have a point, if the federal government actually isn't doing anything with a piece of land, there's no reason for it to own it.

Of course, a huge swath of uninhabited Nevada is used by the Air Force to test blowing shit up. And yet more large swathes of those states are lands which are technically not part of the United States, but rather the various tribal nations that were forced onto reservations.
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 10:17:59 am »

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http://news.investors.com/article/606068/201203291839/new-sagebrush-rebellion-brews-in-western-states.htm

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It would mean relief at the pump, as well, as the markets would respond by lowering prices in anticipation of a growing supply.

Of course the bulk of the relief would be a few years away. But there are steps the administration could take now that would lower gasoline prices before summer.

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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 10:30:35 am »

Does it need pointing out that US domestic oil production has risen quite a bit over the past three years?
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2012, 10:37:46 am »

On private lands, not federal, according to the article. Which means, clearly, Obeezy is an oil tyrant that is essentially strangling money out of the American economy. He's also directly responsible for higher gas prices, according to the article. Obviously so he can swim in a bank vault full of money like Scrooge McDuck.
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 10:40:09 am »

Just once, it would be wonderful if news articles could be unbiased and truthful.

Of course, if that happened, I'd be having pig wing sandwiches for dinner. In an igloo in hell.
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 10:42:36 am »

*This "news" article payed for by "citizen corporations for the irresponsible exploitation of public land for private profit and pissing off those dirty hippies".
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2012, 02:34:07 pm »

Ceed it to the Native Peoples instead of the States.

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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2012, 02:55:20 pm »

Ceed it to the Native Peoples instead of the States.

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They'd just trade it away to the Canadians for fire water and beads.
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Re: An interesting development in the US of A
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2012, 02:59:36 pm »

Man who wouldn't trade that worthless stuff away for booze and bling. :P
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