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[Iron Bird]

Hello all,

I'll explain my slightly-confusing thread title: You see, I embarked upon a tundra without any wood or rock, and I had a aquifer.
Not able to think of any way to breach the aquifer without those without sacrificing a dwarf, I decided that doing so was my only option.
So, I did as I said and I think it turned out well... but my dwarves aren't willing to dig down the thing. Any idea why?

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[Blizzlord]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79224.15
A guide to pierce any aquifer. You can also use the wood from the wagon.

Edit 2: You should give your dwarves a path to cross to the digging site.

[Lord Snow]

is that 7/7 water?

how did the down stair get into the 3x3 block?

[khearn]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79224.15
A guide to pierce any aquifer (assuming you have some wood).

As my college instructors used to say, RTP (Read The Problem):

I'll explain my slightly-confusing thread title: You see, I embarked upon a tundra without any wood or rock, and I had a aquifer.

Are those ramps all full of 7/7 water? It doesn't look like your miners can get to the stairs.

[Blizzlord]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79224.15
A guide to pierce any aquifer (assuming you have some wood).

As my college instructors used to say, RTP (Read The Problem):

I'll explain my slightly-confusing thread title: You see, I embarked upon a tundra without any wood or rock, and I had a aquifer.

Are those ramps all full of 7/7 water? It doesn't look like your miners can get to the stairs.

I reviewed my post.

[Iron Bird]

Ah, again the obvious has been ignored by me...
Yet, being the newb I am, how do I construct such a floor? :x

[khearn]

Ah, again the obvious has been ignored by me...
Yet, being the newb I am, how do I construct such a floor? :x

b-C-f

But then you'll need some wood or rock to use to make it.  Deconstruct the wagon, as Blizzlord suggested.

[Iron Bird]

Thanks for the help so far, everyone. I still have a problem, however, at the place where I dug the up/down stairs a stone has appeared, and there has been no sign of the stairs:

Exactly 1 z-level below.

[Blizzlord]

Seems that there is no stair there. And no view on the lower z-level...

I'm stumped.

[Iron Bird]

Some additional information for you guys to solve it: the boulder lying there is chalk, and whenever I try to place another up/down staircase there simply nothing happens.
Maybe I need to move the rock, but do you know any way to make chalk non-economic so it can be made into things and able to be moved?

[Exponent]

Use the loo\[k\] command and move over the square with the rock.  If it says "chalk stone" on one line and "chalk up/down stair" on the next, then you're good; the rock is simply visually hiding the stair, but it is there and usable.  Just designate an up/down stair one z-level below, and they'll keep going downward.  (Unless your aquifer is more than one z-level thick, in which case you're probably hosed without materials.)

If it just says "chalk down stair", however, then that's unfortunate, though you should still be able to use that chalk rock to construct an up/down stair on top of the carved down stair.

If it says something else, I'm stumped.

[uggi]

This kinda sounds like bug 358. I think I've run into similar situation once. Try to channel down instead of digging stairs, I think that worked. After the miner has dug up some stones, make him a mason and order him to construct the stairs back up.

[Iron Bird]

Okay, I'll try that and update this post. Thanks for all the help so far guys!

EDIT: Apparently the tile to be channeled cannot be reached, because none of my miners are doing anything...

[zach123b]

if ur on a glacier then dig channels down so the cold air freezes the aquifer
and ice counts as a rock, as long as it's above ground it won't melt here
there's a challenge to live above ground as eskimos in freezing weather, only to use bones and ice
~although i've never tried it

i usualy only embark on aquifers with temperate or colder weather so i don't have to pierce it the aquifers >.>

[uggi]

Umm, the tileset is confusing me. Can your dwarves even reach the hole or is it surrounded by ice walls? Try if you can build downstairs on the space above of the hole, and then build up/downstairs below, inside the hole? Then you should be able to either dig or channel down. Maybe try another place to get around the aquifer? Can you upload the save?