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Author Topic: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?  (Read 5964 times)

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Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« on: April 01, 2012, 10:51:15 pm »

As it says on the tin.  I'm not familiar with good biomes, my study has been more into evil.  I've embarked on a good/evil border, which looks pretty nice, but my goal for zombie unicorns may not work as well as I'd hoped.  So far I'm getting mundane ostriches and river otters and whatnot.  Will unicorns show up eventually?

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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 10:56:12 pm »

I'm fairly sure that unicorns are joyous wilds exclusive... But I have no idea because I've only ever seen 2 or 3.
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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 10:59:22 pm »

I'm not entirely sure that anything is guaranteed to appear.

However rather than be entirely useless I will weigh in that whenever I've had unicorns around previously I've never had any problems getting them to show up very often. They are, after all, the biggest, meanest, stabbinest mothers this side of the mountainhomes, so they're probably still around. When I say "previously" however, I mean "before five metric fucktons of sponsorship animals", so you might have to wait around a while.

I suppose the best you can do now is check on exported legends data to make sure that they're not extinct and then simply cross your fingers. You're definitely in one of the following biomes, right?

[BIOME:FOREST_TAIGA] [BIOME:ANY_TEMPERATE_FOREST] [BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST] [BIOME:SHRUBLAND_TEMPERATE] [BIOME:SHRUBLAND_TROPICAL]
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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 11:05:17 pm »

Well, the plan for harvesting unicorns is rather straightforward.  I'm going to cordon off half the map from good and evil, and toss my hunters to the evil.  On the good side I'll set up cage traps to gather live animals.  Anything I want reanimated gets moved to the evil side!  Proper corpse management should allow for unicorn breeding (when modded to be exotic) and generation of unicorn corpses.

I wonder, will the horn itself reanimate?

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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 11:06:26 pm »

Your best bet is to systematically remove creatures that interfere with unicorns spawning. They only spawn in good biomes, so you may as well be rid of a few dozen good biome only creatures until you only have unicorns and one or two others.

Then you'll get your stabbity horses.
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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2012, 11:09:59 pm »

Well, the plan for harvesting unicorns is rather straightforward.  I'm going to cordon off half the map from good and evil, and toss my hunters to the evil.  On the good side I'll set up cage traps to gather live animals.  Anything I want reanimated gets moved to the evil side!  Proper corpse management should allow for unicorn breeding (when modded to be exotic) and generation of unicorn corpses.

I wonder, will the horn itself reanimate?

Unicorns make for some seriously dangeresque war animals if you've added [TRAINABLE] too. Hooves and a horn? Toady might as well have given them rocket propelled grenade launchers.

Reanimating unicorn horns, however, sound like the worst thing to ever happen. I hope you don't mind broken hearts.
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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2012, 11:11:04 pm »

Coincidentally, I embarked here to let it run and see what wildlife shows up.  Apparently it favors the undead.  I've gotten several corpses, and have generated several more (and just crumbled to my end).  My fisher worker apparently went and found some mussels, and when they rotted the shells reanimated.

Also I had 2-3 rotting dwarf corpses running around painting the countryside in lines of puss.

I feel that there is art to be made here, if only we can figure the best method...

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2012, 11:17:43 pm »

I feel that there is art to be made here, if only we can figure the best method...

Your colour palette is limited as it is, but if you could incorporate trolls into the equation then you've got an entirely new bright blue paintbrush.
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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 12:01:30 am »

I'm pretty sure that KodKod is right. Biomes can gen without any populations of certain creatures; I think that's what the [UBIQUITOUS] does is make sure that they do exist in every applicable biome.

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 12:10:40 am »

I'm pretty sure that KodKod is right. Biomes can gen without any populations of certain creatures; I think that's what the [UBIQUITOUS] does is make sure that they do exist in every applicable biome.

Ah! Ubiquitous!

Thank you, I knew I have left something out of my personalised creatures raws but you just reminded me to throw it back in before I gen my next world.

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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2012, 06:23:23 am »

I wonder, will the horn itself reanimate?

No :C

Unless you mod it to be able to grab things... Or think for itself...

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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2012, 08:26:53 am »

I wonder, will the horn itself reanimate?

No :C

Unless you mod it to be able to grab things... Or think for itself...

Haven't there been reports of reanimating hair before? Reanimating wool? I'm not entirely sure that a sheep's wool is its centre for thought. If those parts, as well as things like mussel shells can reanimate then an undead unicorn horn wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2012, 08:30:13 am »

I wonder if narwhal horns can reanimate...
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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 08:38:45 am »

Haven't there been reports of reanimating hair before? Reanimating wool? I'm not entirely sure that a sheep's wool is its centre for thought. If those parts, as well as things like mussel shells can reanimate then an undead unicorn horn wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Did arena mode testing, animating unicorn horns is not possible :(

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Re: Do Unicorns always appear in good biomes?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 08:50:49 am »

I wonder, will the horn itself reanimate?

No :C

Unless you mod it to be able to grab things... Or think for itself...

Haven't there been reports of reanimating hair before? Reanimating wool? I'm not entirely sure that a sheep's wool is its centre for thought. If those parts, as well as things like mussel shells can reanimate then an undead unicorn horn wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Animation is done by body part.  The hair isn't a body part, it's a tissue layer across many different body parts.  Those body parts include ones with thought or grasp tags, so the hair is a valid body part for reanimation.  The game considers the hair to be the entire creature with every tissue layer but the hair missing.

The horn, on the other hand, is its own body part, and doesn't have any of the tags required for reanimation.  If the horn was a tissue layer on the head rather than its own body part, you would be able to reanimate it.
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