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[AzuredreamsXT]

I have three discovered vampires that are highly skilled and valued assets to the fort. The bodies started piling up though, so I had to isolate then in a crypt I made. Is there a way to prevent them from feeding on sleeping dwarves? Or to make sure they feed on the dwarves I want them to? Using burrows maybe?

Also, even if I figure a way out, will the lack of alcohol eventually make them poor fighters despite their high skills?

[Aviator CJ]

Depending on how you define asset, they make acceptable guinea pigs volunteers for !!Science!!, but if that isn't what you have in mind you'd have to get creative with automatic doors and hatches to keep the vamps isolated.

I try to keep mine locked away in a room directly adjacent to the Nobles Wing. You never know when 'unfortunate accidents' might occur after all.

[kaijyuu]

Requiring clothes makes them a bit more annoying to isolate than before, but by giving them a few decades worth in their hovel, you can isolate them and have them do productive things like book keeping and management.


If you want them to do any sort of item production, you could have them dump their creations through a hole in the floor, reachable by the other dwarves. Requires micromanagement though.

[AzuredreamsXT]

Will vampires viate their burrow restrictions to go hunting for sleeping dwarves to feed on?

[miauw62]

Will vampires viate their burrow restrictions to go hunting for sleeping dwarves to feed on?

Thats why you wall them in.

[Nil Eyeglazed]

It's easy to isolate them.  There are ways to give them useful work while isolated, but each method depends on the type of work.  Some types of work are easier than other types of work.  Making green glass blocks on repeat, in an isolated burrow that includes a magma glass furnace and a sand tile, is an example of the easier type of work-- no need for input goods.

It's relatively harder to prevent them from feeding on valuable dwarves-- depending on how many dwarves you consider valuable.  I'm still catching my dwarves sleeping in the wrong bedroom, so maybe any kind of selective vampire-proofing is doomed to failure.

Burrows won't help.  You need walls, locked doors, that sort of thing.

Yes, they will still make piss-poor fighters, because of alcohol dependence.  I bet you could make them into half-decent marksdwarves if you tried though.

If you want any help with designs for specific industries, let me know-- but be warned, it will involve mechanics.

[NRDL]

Can't you just dump booze into the DIY vampire prison? 

[Gigaz]

They won't drink anything but dwarf blood even though booze would really benefit them. 

[Johuotar]

Sounds like a bug. Hopefully it gets fixed in the current bughunt.

[Nunzillor]

Didn't I read in a thread somewhere about vampires feeding on unconscious tame animals (via cave-in) when deprived of dwarfs?  That would allow you to regulate the vampire's feeding cycle to prevent dwarf deaths, while only isolating the vampire for a limited amount of time.

[saurio]

Put them in a squad, isolate them, put them to train for all eternity. Optionally burrow undesirables in there so the vamps dispose of them.

Upon enemy attack, release your elite undead warriors.

[NRDL]

Didn't I read in a thread somewhere about vampires feeding on unconscious tame animals (via cave-in) when deprived of dwarfs?  That would allow you to regulate the vampire's feeding cycle to prevent dwarf deaths, while only isolating the vampire for a limited amount of time.

The thread I read involved the animals being sedated by evil chloroform rain.  If we're gonna make Cullen vampires ( which would actually be very useful ), we need to find the other ways animals can be knocked out, other than evil rain, or cave-ins.

Anyone have any ideas? 

[Nunzillor]

Well, to continue my uninformed near-baseless conjecture (with little testing to support my claims), a few cave-in traps should not be very hard to make.  Seems pretty simple.  Why not?

Edit: and how about assigning them to a fortress-wide system of burrows that does not include sleeping areas?  My (probably false) understanding is that vampires respect burrows, even when considering feeding.

Edit2: Actually I think what I said in edit 1 was wrong... my bad.

[NRDL]

Is it possible to create some sort of reusable space to cave-in animals? 

And I always thought cave-ins kill stuff, never had one myself, so I'm guessing I'm wrong. 

[Nunzillor]

Honestly man, I'm relatively new, so I could easily be wrong, but I always thought a cave-in kills creatures directly under it, but has a chance of stunning and rendering unconscious nearby creatures.

Have an idea for the traps, more later (on the off-chance someone doesn't invalidate my understanding of cave-ins in the meantime).

Edit: also, will severely injured animals sometimes go unconscious?  If so, a different, more conventional and dwarfy trap might be better (I suggest cats or bunnies).
Edits2-3: unnecessary word choice "fixes"
edit4: edited my first edit

Edit5(new record?): Sorry, very hyper right now.  Nil, you offered to help with mechanics.  If what I said in edit one is correct,
can you make an automated one of those using a military schedule for confirmed vamps, a pressure plate, door, animal cage, wooden spikes, fluid repeater, and fluid-based clock... thingy?  I guess each individual vampire's cycle might be different actually depending on the date of their embark waves...  Geeze...  Um, maybe I'll just leave everything to you...