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Original amounts (chickens 4-15, crocodiles 20-60)

Something in between.

Modest Mod's current amounts (chickens 2-4, crocodiles 4-8)

Fewer than that.

[Igfig]

Really? I heard exactly the opposite. Can you confirm that?

And good point Armandhammer, they'll need shoes too. I'm willing to risk bad thoughts due to nudity, though: if I included trousers and shirts, that'd be quite a lot of rottable clothing overall, which would negate the entire purpose of Eternal Fashion. I'll put some warnings in the readme to notify people about the problems.

And just in general, I can't guarantee that any of the modules will be entirely without drawbacks. (The core mod should be perfectly fine, though.)

[Garath]

amazing, this mod includes pretty much everything that I do myself, so this will save me a lot of time. I don't know if it's included, but a request would be to fill up missing child tags from some old and new animals.

[Sutremaine]

As far as I understand dwarfs need at least have shoes trousers and vests. (or anything that covers the same body parts) cloaks will not be enough methinks...

Cloaks are fine for avoiding thoughts about shirtlessness, they're upper body items.

[Hesuchia]

This mod looks awesome, but I'm just curious: why isn't it inherently compatible with graphics packs?  I'm not sure how the mechanics of all the modding works, but wouldn't raw editing not really mess with packs at all since they just make the tiles look different and this changes the background mechanics themselves?

[Meph]

Tilesets do change the raws, since the raw objects have an ID that points towards the proper tile. If #125 is a tree in Phoebus, and a fish in Ironhand, then you have to change the raws for that.

[randyshipp]

Tilesets do change the raws, since the raw objects have an ID that points towards the proper tile. If #125 is a tree in Phoebus, and a fish in Ironhand, then you have to change the raws for that.

If one wants to use this with the Phoebus tileset, is it a lot of work to get it going?  Is it something fairly simple and systematic to do, or is it a PITA?

[TolyK]

I'm working on something that makes stuff like that a LOT easier, but... for now you'll have to do it by hand.

[Igfig]

Version 1.5 has been released, fixing the bugs people brought up and also adding the Seasonal Crops module.  Next up: Phoebus compatibility.

Also I've finally gone and written some scripts to help me apply the more time-consuming changes (the ones that have to check every creature in the raws, for instance). That should speed up my updates in the future.

I don't know if it's included, but a request would be to fill up missing child tags from some old and new animals.

Which ones are those? I didn't know there were any animals with missing children.

[Zheel]

Nice job, Igfig, and thanks for putting this together!

I did notice when I installed though that I had to edit raw/objects/entity_default.txt to include the lines:

    [PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_FLOUR]
    [PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_DYE]
    [PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_SUGAR]

in the [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] section to get those reactions available on my querns/millstones.

Also, I notice that using them produces no seeds, leaving me in a situation where I eventually run out of... say dimple cups. I tried tweaking the reactions to add something like this to each one

    [PRODUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:plant:SEED_MAT]

but it just results in the job producing a generic 'seed' that doesn't seem to be useful. Short of splitting the product-oriented reactions into a longer list of reagent-oriented ones, is there a way to have the custom milling jobs produce seeds like the built in ones?

[Igfig]

Wow, however did I miss those? Thanks for alerting me; I'll fix them as soon as possible.

In the meantime: the line you added to the reactions is correct, except that you'll want to use SEED instead of SEED_MAT. wait no what am I thinking

[Urist_McArathos]

Can anyone confirm the arrival of diplomats and guild reps?  I haven't had any show up yet.  Also, I'm not seeing an "Overseer" position on my noble list either.

[Igfig]

Version 1.6 is out, fixing those problems with the milling reactions. It also makes scale work like leather instead of shell (a recent thread on the topic made me think about it some more).

I definitely got diplomats and guild reps in the last game I played, but that was before I added overseers.

[Urist_McArathos]

I fixed overseers, but I don't know how you're getting diplomats and guild reps and I'm not.  You need to add [SITE] to the Overseer's raws (I just put it as the line under their name) for them to appearance.  As it is, they appear above the expedition leader in the noble listing.  To make them appear below, change their precedence to 115 (wasn't sure if first on the list was behavior as intended).

Are you getting elven tree diplomats your first spring?  I just ran a 900 FPS game with a simple fort to rush to spring, and only got elven traders, no diplomat.

[Igfig]

I don't remember the timing; it was a couple months ago.  Maybe they don't come until the second spring, so they can compare tree counts with the first caravan's visit?

And thanks for spotting the Overseer bug. I'll have the fix in the next version.

[Urist_McArathos]

I"m happy to help; I love the idea of a vanilla-compatible "bugfix" and am happy to help test it for problems.

I'll try the fortress I want to play with it, as is...see if they come after a second year.