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Author Topic: The Mali Coup Thread (All Mali, All The Time!)  (Read 4889 times)

jester

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Re: The Mali Coup Thread (All Mali, All The Time!)
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2012, 10:06:53 am »

I thought it was a 2 prong thing, establish permanent military presence in the middle east as saudi arabia isnt that secure anymore and put the fear of god into any other small nations that might say no?
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Re: The Mali Coup Thread (All Mali, All The Time!)
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2012, 10:54:32 am »

Both the junta staying in power and the Tuareg not being what they claimed they were.
That I don't get. The Turaeg were fighting for independence. That was it. And now they got it.

Okay, so maybe their "secularism" was a bit of a lie, but hey, alliance of convenience and what-not. And besides, if the international community recognized Awazad, maybe the Turaeg secularists might have a bit of an incentive to actually keep on being secularists. (At the cost of the Mali coup plotters having less incentive to stop military rule.)
They repeatedly stated that they had nothing to do with the islamists and I think they even said they would kill/attack them if they continued to be an annoyance.

Something that wasn't very clear early on was that the Tuareg really aren't the only people in the area. While I do not know what the Tuareg stance on those other ethnicities are, I hope they won't be total dicks.
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Re: The Mali Coup Thread (All Mali, All The Time!)
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2012, 10:59:30 am »

Well, since the ethnic whatever (aka non-Tuareg) are already doing a counter-revolt in the south of the north of Mali (Confused already?), it doesn't bode well for the future.
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Re: The Mali Coup Thread (All Mali, All The Time!)
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2012, 12:18:28 pm »

The BBC has a short bio about the leader of the Islamists (scroll down to 'Wrong mosques'); he apperantly was a very important political player who previously led a Turaeg revolt in the 1990's, got pardoned, and became a government minister. He only recently became an Islamist...so if you want to say the Turaeg secessionists were not really secularists, maybe the Islamists were not really Islamists as well.

Anyway, there is currently a dispute over the application of Shariah law, so the pact may come undone, but I don't really think that'd be the case.

(I'll hope to return back to talking about the Mali coup soon)
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Re: The Mali Coup Thread (All Mali, All The Time!)
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2012, 10:30:35 pm »

...And the Awazad alliance unraveled today.

All sound and fury, signifying nothing. Why do we people treat preliminary treaty declarations as set in stone, I don't know...
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Re: The Mali Coup Thread (All Mali, All The Time!)
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2012, 10:57:43 pm »

The best thing about radical groups with different goals is that any overlap is bound to bring trouble.

I really hope this turns out well for Mali. They should be setting an example for the merit of secular and democratic rule in the entire region, but the nation is so poor that they can't maintain the kind of military needed to fight rebels.
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