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andyman564

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Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« on: March 27, 2012, 02:30:00 pm »

i was just wondering if armor would fulfill the clothing requirements of dwarves. I'd science this myself, but I've got literally no spare time for the next few weeks.

if so, then it would save a lot of hassle having to constantly make clothing to replace the mildly worn out stuff.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 02:42:25 pm »

It has been suggested that it does not meet clothing requirements.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 02:49:01 pm »

Counter-question: If you specify a dwarf to wear clothing via the military menu, will this satisfy their clothing needs?

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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2012, 02:56:28 pm »

Counter-question: If you specify a dwarf to wear clothing via the military menu, will this satisfy their clothing needs?

I imagine that this depends entirely on how the distinction between armour and clothing functions.

My current train of thought it that "armour" is distinguished by the ARMORLEVEL tag in the raws, just as wear seems to be, so that anything with an ARMORLEVEL above zero counts as armour, does not wear, and does not prevent unhappy thoughts, whereas anything with the default ARMORLEVEL of zero is clothing, with all of the associated benefits and disadvantages.

Of course I could be completely off the mark and it could be based simply on the fact that anything assigned to the dwarf via the military is Armour and doesn't prevent unhappy thoughts.

Sadly I can't test this at the minute.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2012, 02:57:02 pm »

I've had to order my fully steel-clad military to wear their uniforms over their clothes again, instead of replacing clothes. Armor does not count as clothing. Don't know about assigning non-armor clothes via the equipment screen though.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2012, 04:29:37 pm »

This calls for locking a dwarf in a pit, stripping them naked (would forbidding all their clothes work?) and then adding specific items of clothing to see if they can prevent bad thoughts.

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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2012, 07:14:59 pm »

Would *you* be happy about wearing -iron chain mail- while you were lacking pants and a loincloth?  :o
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 07:16:05 pm »

Well I imagine the breeze would feel nice through those metal rings.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 08:15:24 pm »

Subsidiary outburst:

Artifact clothing is now hella cool, because you don't need to replace it.

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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 08:15:49 pm »

Chainmail breathes nicely, but it scratches and chafes.  Sorta like wearing fishnets, it's got a nice feel to it, but after an hour it gets a little old, and after actually wearing it a bit it becomes a pain.

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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 08:16:41 pm »

Subsidiary outburst:

Artifact clothing is now hella cool, because you don't need to replace it.
As far as I know, dwarves won't randomly claim those, so you'll have to assign it to someone through a uniform.

So they're nice for military dwarves.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 08:25:26 pm »

Sorta like wearing fishnets

And zat is why you wear stockings under ze fishnets, just like dwarves and armour.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 08:32:31 pm »

Haven't tested this yet, but my hypothesis is that they need to *own* the clothes for it to count. Anything assigned through the military screen isn't owned, which would explain why armor doesn't count. But I haven't tested it yet, too busy building magma stack.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 10:06:21 pm »

Yep, I have a load of soldiers 'very embarrassed to be uncovered recently' and tantrumming.
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Re: Armor meeting clothing requirements?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 10:26:09 pm »

Yep, I have a load of soldiers 'very embarrassed to be uncovered recently' and tantrumming.

Sometimes i just dont understand my dwarves.  If they don't have pants under their armor, they go berzerk.  Give a tough, manly axelord a dress and a thong and he's quite content.
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