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[shadus]

Anyone else having issues finding coal in 34.05?  I'm having major issues finding coal in worlds genned 34.05... I know the typical tricks, its in sed layers, it's veins, not near volcano's, etc.  I just had a large world where i went through over 500 embark sites with sed layers with dfhack prospect and found 0 lig or bit coal (and embarked on a dozen or so to ensure dfhack wasn't misreading.)  I'm remaking the world currently in case it's just a glitch, but this is actually the second world I've come up poorly on for coal since 34... so is it just me or is this something anyone else is experiencing?

[KodKod]

I can confirm that I have found both types of coal in 34.05 worlds without modifications.

[GhostDwemer]

What mineral scarcity settings are you using? Also, you do realize that dfhack lists coal separately from other metals, and that you need to use "prospect all," right?

[Uronym]

I'm not having any problems..

[Vanaheimer]

The fort I started earlier is currently swimming in massive amounts of both lignite and bituminous coal. Good thing too, after making some beds I had about 3 trees left on the map.

[shadus]

I'm currently using "frequent" as my mineral scarcity... and yeah, I've used dfhack's prospect (prospect all) in the past with other versions fine and found coal easily.

I'm bout to load up my new world and see how the coal situation looks... last two were large, this one is medium... maybe that's making some kind of difference.

Found coal on the medium in 2 checks on embark location... maybe an issue with the large gens?  Any of those commenting they have it currently using large worlds?

[GhostDwemer]

I also can confirm the presence of bituminous coal and lignite on large (25x257) worlds. I have genned worlds with mineral scarcity from 100 to 1250 (as high as I go) and found some coal on all of them where I was specifically looking for coal, although recently I have been playing "play it as it lies" style and not looking for anything specific. Nothing beats the frustration of "I can't find X!" better than "But I don't actually need X!" For instance my current fort has only copper, no coal, and a little sphalerite and garnierite. My drop pits, serrated copper disks, menacing copper spikes and cage traps can easily take care of any hostile. My stacks of masterwork quarry bush roasts will clean out entire caravans, and I only have to haul three or four items to the depot.

Remember, dig deep enough and you will find magma and candy on every single embark. You really don't need coal as much as you think you do.

[Frogwarrior]

Uh.... except for steel?

[NonconsensualSurgery]

I'm currently using "frequent" as my mineral scarcity... and yeah, I've used dfhack's prospect (prospect all) in the past with other versions fine and found coal easily.

I'm bout to load up my new world and see how the coal situation looks... last two were large, this one is medium... maybe that's making some kind of difference.

Found coal on the medium in 2 checks on embark location... maybe an issue with the large gens?  Any of those commenting they have it currently using large worlds?

Large world, coal out the wazoo in 36.06.

The RNG merely hates you.

[kaijyuu]

Remember, dig deep enough and you will find magma and candy on every single embark

Pedantic, but it's possible to not get any candy whatsoever on a 2x2 embark. Somewhat rare though (~60% chance of at least 1 spire in worst conditions, iirc).

[GhostDwemer]

Yes, but, my point is you don't need any given thing. You can play without steel. You can play without candy. I used to be the guy who had to have coal and flux and steel and candy and magma in order to be happy. Finding out I don't really need any of that stuff has been liberating. Oh noes, copper is teh suckiest metal, but you know what? It kills things. For that matter a cave in trap made of wood or mud or fracking kitten soap will kill anything in the game.

[arphen]

Yes, but, my point is you don't need any given thing. You can play without steel. You can play without candy. I used to be the guy who had to have coal and flux and steel and candy and magma in order to be happy. Finding out I don't really need any of that stuff has been liberating. Oh noes, copper is teh suckiest metal, but you know what? It kills things. For that matter a cave in trap made of wood or mud or fracking kitten soap will kill anything in the game.

+1
i'm on a glacier volcano at the moment and my dwarves just dont stop dying, i dont have water or even iron ore.
i have like tiny veins of copper, no dfhack and i love this game

[rtg593]

My problem was reverse, several world's, lots of embarks each world, 0.31, never any coal. 0.34,it's everywhere.

Good luck :p

[CursedBurger]

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Yes, but, my point is you don't need any given thing. You can play without steel. You can play without candy. I used to be the guy who had to have coal and flux and steel and candy and magma in order to be happy. Finding out I don't really need any of that stuff has been liberating. Oh noes, copper is teh suckiest metal, but you know what? It kills things. For that matter a cave in trap made of wood or mud or fracking kitten soap will kill anything in the game.

The slogan of my current fort (third sedimentary-layer fort with no iron or coal) is "How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Bronze."