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[kingubu]

Murder migrants.

[Jake]

If there's one thing you can rely on the elves to bring you, it's cloth. One caravan can keep four to six clothier's shops running for a whole season, and the surplus clothing is about the most valuable trade commodity you can make without fuel.

[Garath]

Also, goblins are suddenly a lot more welcome

[wierd]

Brown recluse spiders keep pooping out absurd numbers of webs.

I turn the webs into silk underpants.

Dwarves are happy.

[AWdeV]

GCS silk is extremely easy to get in large qualities, and with 3 looms and 3 clothier shops I can keep my 100 population fortress afloat when it comes to trousers.

Surely you're not suggesting it's easier to get in any quantity than either rope reed or pig tail cloth? I've got 3 full-time looms running and they still barely make a dent in my pile of thread 300 big.

Ofcourse, I also have a single dwarf permanently processing plants.

The only trouble I had so far is a kid who was pissed he didn't have trousers. So I gave priority to cloth trousers and also set my leatherworker to making pants. Well-crafted pig tail fibre trousers, he's wearing now. If I'm not mistaken.

For some reason, he didn't choose the masterful sperm whale leather leggings.


I'm roughly in my third/fourth year and have seen not a single goblin so far. And only 4 kobolds or something like that.

[brucemo]

I just made clothes.

I looked at a dwarf and saw what he was wearing:

cloth socks
cloth shoes
cloth gloves
cloth cap
cloth trousers
cloth dress
cloth robes

So I make cloth and dye it and make it into the above.  When old clothes get wear, they put them in bins and take new clothes out.  If I want to get all micro-y I can sell the old clothes to caravans.

If you make other things they will happily wear them.

[simonthedwarf]

I clothe them in the good feeling of "doesnt really care about anything other". The others wear nice dining rooms.

[quintilius]

My problem is not clothing them... it's that the X*Pig Tail Fiber Trousers*X get tossed off at the earliest opportunity to outfit themselves in *Pig Tail Fiber Trousers*... at which point i get cabinets filled with worn clothing, followed by rooms filled with worn clothing, tombs filled with worn clothing, hallways temporarily filled with worn clothing, then 20 days later stockpiles filled with worn clothing.
Sure the XX*Pig Tail Fiber Trousers*XX will be taken to refuse... but if you have a clothing industry your dwarves wont get to that point

Toady should extend the time something is not X.... shorten the time it is X... give no bad thoughts for X clothes, only for XX, and have them take all X clothes to the dump rather than piling them up.

I swear i have screens of whole bedroom levels that are nothing but clothing.

[Vanaheimer]

Burn em. d-b-d the bastards in to a garbage dump straight in to the magma.

[wierd]

Why?

I trade those biznatches to stupid humans who don't know any better.

Masterwork x*<pigtail trousers>*x are still worth over 150 urists. The humans don't know any better. Sell em off.  The leftovers?  Send them off as party favors.

[quintilius]

Why?

I trade those biznatches to stupid humans who don't know any better.

Masterwork x*<pigtail trousers>*x are still worth over 150 urists. The humans don't know any better. Sell em off.  The leftovers?  Send them off as party favors.

a valid point - and selling the castoffs once they become unowned is great - but so long as my little buddies have cabinets in their rooms they seem to just pile up more and more of the stuff.  I counted, my expedition leader has 5 worn socks amongst his 59 owned objects (and he's not in the military). This seems 'a bit much' to me. When clothing was broken we only had to endure one phase of worn out clothing littering the ground... and the clutter makes my mountainhome feel more like a kobold cave.

[Moonshine Fox]

Shoes, gloves, socks, gauntlets, etc are produced in pairs, so that's still cool.

Personally, when it becomes an issue for me I plan to utilize DFHack.  the workflow command allows you to specify "keep X amount of items stocked."  I do this with booze already, just "keep 500 booze" and forget about it.  Similarly, "keep 15 pants" will have your clothiers get to work every time your pant situation becomes dire.

*headdesks*
I completely forgot about workflow!

[Moonshine Fox]

Also, I thought dwarves were now supposed to drop their owned and worn clothing in either the garbage dump or the refuse pile?

[wierd]

Only "threadbare", eg, Xxpigtail sockxX.

Items showing "some wear", eg xpigtail sockx, aren't worn out enough to throw away. It's like my mom with her goodwill antics with 30 year old clothes. "Too good to throw out, even if no one wears them anymore!"

Of course, if they have to wear clothes with even the slightest bit of wear on them, they get unhappy thoughts and crash back to hard reality from their alcohol induced flight to neverland. This is naturally bad for morale, and should be avoided.

[Nyotor Lizardhammers]

Them dorfs gotta stay trendy, man

Pig Tail was so last year. Cat leather is in fashion now

And with thoughts like that, no wonder they throw out clothing so fast, they'd all obviously rather DIE then wear outdated clothes

gosh