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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2012, 05:47:35 pm »

Not generally, because size is also a factor.  Now, if you edited the attack to use ATTACK_PERC:5 then you'd have them use 1/20th of the contact area.  Essentially, all animal attacks are strikes with the flat of the sword.  If you tweak them to use smaller contact area without lowering the size, then you get whips.

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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2012, 05:54:42 pm »

So I can't have Monty Python esque killer rabbits :(
Unless, of course, I mod it XD
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2012, 06:01:33 am »

At the moment I have my four starting dogs; three bitches, all as war dogs and they've, naturally, produced a bunch of puppies. I've killed all puppies by definition which were mentioned as being weak even if enormous or gigantic (what's the difference between these?) The puppies I've left are all pretty large:

3 female puppies, all gigantic with no addendum.
One male puppy; very fat and enormous overall
One male puppy;  bears untold amounts of fat over a gigantic frame and
One male puppy; is very muscular and just gigantic overall.

So I suppose I can assume that the next litters will be pretty big.
The four war dogs are much the same as the puppies except for one dog who is enormous yet very weak. Should I kill this one? It IS a war dog already, but less likely to make awesome puppies. :P
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2012, 08:00:11 am »

The native Hawaiians had a breed of dogs that were raised specifically for food. European explorers remarked how fat, stupid and lethargic these dogs were. So there's definitely historic precedent for breeding fat dogs. For war purposes, huge, lean, muscular dogs of the Molosser type have been historically preferred around the world. In real life it's significantly easier and cheaper to raise a small fat dog than a huge fat one.

The Swiss are fairly dwarfy; both dogs and cats are eaten in rural Switzerland and there is a sporadic trade in cat fur. Switzerland has some pretty severe animal cruelty laws, but it's open season on cats all year round and it's legal to kill any cat that's more than 200 yards away from its home. Then you're free to do whatever you want with it! Yum yum yum.
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2012, 10:02:16 am »

Can puppies impregnate the female dogs, or do they have to grow up first?   The further you get into this with more and more breeding females, you may have to put some more butcher shops and such in to kill the puppies before they mature into dogs.  You don't want one of those wimpy small dogs impregnating that sexy bitch over there...
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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2012, 11:50:00 am »


You can effectively nerf a GCS by making them 2x larger, their fangs become too large to penetrate armor easily.
They already fail to bite through bronze.
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2012, 12:22:20 pm »

Can puppies impregnate the female dogs, or do they have to grow up first?   The further you get into this with more and more breeding females, you may have to put some more butcher shops and such in to kill the puppies before they mature into dogs.  You don't want one of those wimpy small dogs impregnating that sexy bitch over there...
I don't think any pups/baby animals can breed (at least in DF). Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2012, 12:44:43 pm »

Last time i fiddled with DF genetics more than a year ago, so I am not exactly sure I remember things right or if they were changed since then, but I think that attributes, both mental and physical, are not transferred to offsprings. The only things that you can breed for are size, musculature, amount of fat and hair and skin color. Breeding all your animals to be the same color, then dyeing all clothes in the fortress in it too, is fun.
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2012, 02:41:11 pm »

Breeding all your animals to be the same color, then dyeing all clothes in the fortress in it too, is fun.
and also almost unbelievably OCD, as well

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2012, 06:46:27 pm »

So, if one were breeding meals on legs, what would be the more wished for attributes?
Fat? Muscle? Gigantic's a fairly obvious one.
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2012, 07:07:56 pm »

Muscle means more meat.

Fat actually reduces the amount of meat you can get from the animal, but you can make tallow roasts with fat, so it's a bit of a wash (though I don't think anyone's done any !!science!! to figure out for sure if the tallow fat gain offsets the loss of meat in terms of food production).
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2012, 02:55:16 pm »

Tallow roasts are fine and all, but I'm a little scared of them.
The one fort I had with consistently incredibly fat dwarfs was the one fort I had that ate animal fats.
I don't know if it was just luck of the draw or if the food really did that to them, but I really haven't wanted to chance it. >.<
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2012, 02:57:08 pm »

fat dwarfs is good
Fat is an extra layer of armor that has to be damaged before more serious things get hurt and more fat does not automatically mean less muscle.
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2012, 03:18:57 pm »

I figured a fat dwarf wouldn't be as agile...
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Re: Dog breeding.
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2012, 03:21:03 pm »

adventure mode: you can be strong, fat and agile, all at the same time.

Seperate stats and they don't interfere. Afaik
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