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[Loud Whispers]

Nice helmet

[Girlinhat]

In practice, they'll never actually bite the eye.  A prone shot is a headshot, eyes won't be targeted.

[Urist Da Vinci]

OK, maybe I should have sacrificed the original miner so that I could trap the GCS, but at the time I had a massive operation going on to wall off most of cavern 1 to use as a tree farm and ore source. The spider was an unacceptable delay.

Maybe this information would be useful for tame GCS warfare in 34.06? Do they use their web abilities after being tamed?

Do other creatures with abilities spam them as much? Testing in the arena suggests yes. Dragon/fire imp/fire man/magma crab pillboxes appear viable.

[saltmummy626]

yes, when tamed they do shoot webs. the question I have, is how fast are they really? in other words, could they catch a kobold without using their webs?

[Darekun]

GCS survival tips:
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…So basically, tank + ranged DPS? Send in your buffest meleeist with a good helm, backed up by a squad of marksdwarves?

the question I have, is how fast are they really? in other words, could they catch a kobold without using their webs?

The raws show no speed adjustment, so like dwarves, kobolds will stay ahead of them without ranged attacks.

[RAKninja]

Most fantasy style spiders raise their abdomens high and can point their spinnerets at an opponent, rather than having to spray backwards.

Huh. I always pictured them curling it under and firing forward from underneath, from between its legs.

quite a few real world spiders do this...  they use their hindmost legs to pull out and throw the web.

hrm....  i wonder if we can somehow possibly mod in a giant lariat/bola spider.....

[krenshala]

Imagine the fun of dealing with a giant trap-door spider infestation.

Do, de-do ... I'll just go and collect that weeEEEEEAAAAGH!

*Urist McMissing, Web Gatherer, has been missing for a week*

[Rude]

Most fantasy style spiders raise their abdomens high and can point their spinnerets at an opponent, rather than having to spray backwards.

Huh. I always pictured them curling it under and firing forward from underneath, from between its legs.

quite a few real world spiders do this...  they use their hindmost legs to pull out and throw the web.

This. Exactly this. I've never heard of "throwing" webbing (outside of fantasy)
but most of them do something like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giwm4RkbnFw
And things are usually bitten before being wrapped to reduce struggling.
Think about it realistically and "projectile silk" is kind of ridiculous.
Also, shame on you all for making me look that video up. I'll be shuddering and checking every crevice of my surroundings for the rest of the day.

[Loud Whispers]

Think about it realistically and "projectile silk" is kind of ridiculous.

What's unrealistic about it?

1. It'd be a viable tool for a more proactive spider
2. Mother nature has done weirder things
3. It actually already exists. Ogre Spiders.

[Rude]

Think about it realistically and "projectile silk" is kind of ridiculous.

What's unrealistic about it?

1. It'd be a viable tool for a more proactive spider
2. Mother nature has done weirder things
3. It actually already exists. Ogre Spiders.

1. there are spiders that hunt very proactively, they don't usually rely on webbing.
2. Yup.
3.*Googles* Oh. Cool, learn something new everyday. But,that's not exactly throwing webbing like the GCS. More like fishing with a net.

What I mean about unrealistic is that, on a large scale especially, strands of silk won't fly very far in the face of wind resistance.

[Loud Whispers]

Mother nature wins again...

Ballooning spiders, as well as most species of spiders in their infant stages, shoot strands of silk through the air. Then begin flying.

Air resistance =/= Spider

Also GCS don't exactly have the range of a hunting rifle on them

[Malarauko]

Think about it realistically and "projectile silk" is kind of ridiculous.

What's unrealistic about it?

1. It'd be a viable tool for a more proactive spider
2. Mother nature has done weirder things
3. It actually already exists. Ogre Spiders.

1. there are spiders that hunt very proactively, they don't usually rely on webbing.
2. Yup.
3.*Googles* Oh. Cool, learn something new everyday. But,that's not exactly throwing webbing like the GCS. More like fishing with a net.

What I mean about unrealistic is that, on a large scale especially, strands of silk won't fly very far in the face of wind resistance.

Are we really arguing for realism in a world where there are demons below you, magical blue super metal and dragons?

[KodKod]

Are we really arguing for realism in a world where there are clowns below you, magical blue super metal and dragons?

You should have seen what happened when Brown Recluse Spider silk was brought up a while ago.

Blood was spilt on both sides, there were deaths; grieving widows wept at the loss, driven to suicide, taking their children with them.

It was... horrible. Never before and never again will the world bear withness to such tragedy.

[Loud Whispers]

Are we really arguing for realism in a world where [REDACTED], magical blue super metal and dragons?

Spoilers man.

Also there should be a reasonable sense of realism, sure it's a fantasy world simulator, but it's got freaking tissue layers, science and shit.

[Rude]

Are we really arguing for realism in a world where there are demons below you, magical blue super metal and dragons?

Are you aware you said that on a forum that has a 23 page long discussion on the physics of adamantine? (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104461.0) I'm not arguing anything. I'm perfectly content with GCS and web throwing, but it is ridiculous realistically speaking.
Also,"fantasy" doesn't mean that we have to accept that Iron and corundum somehow magically make steel.