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[GlyphGryph]

I was under the impression everyone knew that, and is why I suggested as much. Oops - should have clarified.

[Delta Foxtrot]

More effective than smoke would be to just arm half the squad with assault rifles and put the rest on stun duty. Past Lizardmen the assault rifles become next to useless as a tool for murder. It therefore makes it a superb weapon to arm half a squad with who pop few aimed shots at all targets before stun guys close in.

[Sirus]

Personally, I swear by the small launchers. I never sell them or their ammunition, and an AoE stun effect is very useful, especially when boarding a UFO.

[Mephansteras]

We don't exactly have those yet, though.

[GlyphGryph]

Yeah, those replace stun rods WHEN they become available pretty much (though they should have both for occassional close in work!)

[Sirus]

Do we have them though? It's not like IronyOwl is giving us a list of loot from each mission, not that it's necessary.

[Delta Foxtrot]

It is my experience that it takes a few months before you start getting them. Even then it's at least a bit random. Pretty unlikely that we'd have them at this point. Even then, we would need to research them before we can use them. They're definitely on the "loot thou shall not sell" list.

[Jacob/Lee]

Yeah, within a few months ship engineers (at least from my experience with the sectoids, and in large scouts) will be packing small launchers armed with stun bombs. I think, at least. The engineer always point-blanks my soldier after he guns down a second sectoid in the room and both of them get ko'd, so I assume it's a small launcher.

[IronyOwl]

What's your policy on alien loot? Do you just let it sit in the storage gathering dust, or do you sell any excess? I remember getting ridiculous moneys out of selling most of the stuff I looted.

This I'm really not certain of. You do get ridiculous income from it, which I'm not sure is entirely necessary, and there is the whole question of exactly who you're selling advanced alien weaponry to. On the other hand, it's not like you can do anything but sell, use, or stash them elsewhere.

Ok heres another X-Com funfact.
Smoke grenaes actually slowly stun over time so it might be a good idea to equip the stun team with stupid ammounts of those.

I believe all smoke does this, and if its effects on my soldiers is any indication, it's probably not a quick enough process to rely on for much.


And yeah, launchers are awesome, but take a while to gain access to. I'm not entirely certain if we have any, but I haven't noticed any in hand or being used, and I don't think I've seen it on the research screen (which is pretty crowded, mind you).

[GlyphGryph]

Irony, it's not quick, but it's basically for throwing into downed ships through holes in the ceiling and through windows and the like, waiting for them to step out, and then having a much more likely chance of successfully stunning them with your stun rods or stun bombs once they finally leave.

The strategy basically involves you getting a decent position and clicking end turn a whole bunch of times. If you arm your soldiers with weak weapons like pistols and just shoot a lot of times, you can also steadily whittle away at health, and whatever stun HAS been added by smokebombs will render them unconscious.

Pistol in one hand stun rod in the other is actually a decent loadout for a capture team for this reason. (assuming you've got a couple hurling smoke grenades)

On selling:
Basically sell everything but elerium, alloys, and a one of each of everything you need to research.

Exception is heavy plasma - keep enough of that (plus clips) around to outfit a squad.

You should also always be building stuff to sell - never let your Engineers idle. Motion Scanners turn a pretty good profit, for example.

[Sirus]

I always made and sold laser weapons. Heavy lasers sell for ridiculous amounts.

[IronyOwl]

Irony, it's not quick, but it's basically for throwing into downed ships through holes in the ceiling and through windows and the like, waiting for them to step out, and then having a much more likely chance of successfully stunning them with your stun rods or stun bombs once they finally leave.

The strategy basically involves you getting a decent position and clicking end turn a whole bunch of times. If you arm your soldiers with weak weapons like pistols and just shoot a lot of times, you can also steadily whittle away at health, and whatever stun HAS been added by smokebombs will render them unconscious.

Pistol in one hand stun rod in the other is actually a decent loadout for a capture team for this reason. (assuming you've got a couple hurling smoke grenades)

Ah, I see. I was thinking more smoke to cover them rushing said aliens, thereby lessening the chances of them being summarily shot en route.

On selling:
Basically sell everything but elerium, alloys, and a one of each of everything you need to research.

Exception is heavy plasma - keep enough of that (plus clips) around to outfit a squad.

You should also always be building stuff to sell - never let your Engineers idle. Motion Scanners turn a pretty good profit, for example.

But... what would I even do with that much money?

[Sirus]

Expand your base, build new ones, replace lost aircraft, use it to build more expensive things, hire dudes...the list goes on. You always need money :|

[MaximumZero]

Build moar bases for worldwide coverage. Attach science labs to the radar posts. Research EVERYTHING.

[IronyOwl]

I guess this means I won't be building a secondary base purely as a mausoleum for our kills? D: