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Author Topic: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov  (Read 31281 times)

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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #120 on: March 25, 2012, 12:28:38 pm »

It's not about how it's in your eyes, it's that several other people would listen to god far more than the president. While god hasn't told us anything lately, besides that crazy guy who lives in a dumpster, the word of god in this society > Prezzy Prezingston
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« Reply #121 on: March 25, 2012, 12:31:41 pm »

I think the number of people claiming to speak for their almighty god probably dilutes that somewhat.
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #122 on: March 25, 2012, 12:36:39 pm »

God's a lot more prominent than the president.
Again, maybe in your eyes. To me, no deities exist and thus are far less prominent than who is arguably the most powerful human being on Earth. Not to say I trust the guy. (I have an inherent distrust of our current government, and will continue to have one until they stop screwing everyone over.)
The concept of a supreme deity, real or no, is certainly a more powerful one than the concept of even a supreme leader on earth. Besides, the idea of putting something that deifies the president on our money makes me wary. That kind of cult of personality is a very authoritarian thing. I much prefer people venerating a god that I don't believe exists than a man who I know is imperfect.
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« Reply #123 on: March 25, 2012, 12:39:27 pm »

It's not like ethnic Chinese Buddhists or Native Americans who adhere to their traditional beliefs are worthy members of society.
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« Reply #124 on: March 25, 2012, 12:40:31 pm »

So I'm getting the drift that some people don't want it removed only cause it will make christians mad to remove it, as opposed to its current position of making everyone who doesn't believe in a singular god upset?
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« Reply #125 on: March 25, 2012, 12:41:23 pm »

It's not like ethnic Chinese Buddhists or Native Americans who adhere to their traditional beliefs are worthy members of society.
That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that more people by number trust god than the president. I'm not saying it's that much better, though
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #126 on: March 25, 2012, 12:44:30 pm »

So I'm getting the drift that some people don't want it removed only cause it will make christians mad to remove it, as opposed to its current position of making everyone who doesn't believe in a singular god upset?
It doesn't help that most of the people pointing out that it will make the Christians upset are themselves Christian, from what I've seen of this and other discussions around the intertubes.
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« Reply #127 on: March 25, 2012, 12:46:01 pm »

It's not like ethnic Chinese Buddhists or Native Americans who adhere to their traditional beliefs are worthy members of society.
That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that more people by number trust god than the president. I'm not saying it's that much better, though

I'll believe you when you show me gods approval rating and his long-form birth certificate and no sooner.
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« Reply #128 on: March 25, 2012, 12:47:49 pm »

Removing it would serve as a decent learning experience about Constitutional law for a number of the younger Christians in the U.S. Their parents have been around long enough to see things like this happen to preserve the Separation of Church and State, but a lot of the new generation lacks the understanding that being a majority group doesn't mean you always get your way.
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« Reply #129 on: March 25, 2012, 12:49:24 pm »

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that more people by number trust god than the president. I'm not saying it's that much better, though
Why is it any better? The correctness (or lack thereof) of the statement is irrelevant. What point or purpose does it serve?

A lot of people shop at wal-mart. Should the motto be "at wal-mart we shop"? It'd be true! It'd also be stupid and not worthy of being on our currency. Kinda like our current motto.
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« Reply #130 on: March 25, 2012, 12:55:29 pm »

It doesn't make every non-Christian upset. Frankly, I'm just glad it doesn't say something like 'For Great Justice.'

Personally, I'm more concerned by 'Novus Ordo Seclorum' because in light of the new Pax Americana it tends to give people a big head about our country's role in the world. Also it provides conspiracy fuel for idiots.
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« Reply #131 on: March 25, 2012, 12:56:22 pm »

If most people thought that pi should be exactly 3, would it be 3?
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« Reply #132 on: March 25, 2012, 12:57:00 pm »

Frankly, I'm just glad it doesn't say something like 'For Great Justice.'
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That would be AWESOME. Don't deny.
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #133 on: March 25, 2012, 12:57:15 pm »

A lot of people shop at wal-mart. Should the motto be "at wal-mart we shop"? It'd be true! It'd also be stupid and not worthy of being on our currency. Kinda like our current motto.
Hey, try pitching that idea to Wal-Mart. I give it 20/80 odds (against) that they try to make it happen.
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« Reply #134 on: March 25, 2012, 12:59:05 pm »

If most people thought that pi should be exactly 3, would it be 3?

Wasn't it three cubits?
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