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[Gotdamnmiracle]

This petition will probably never pass anyway, it'll provide small satasfaction to athiests but bother the religious to atleast twice of the extent. Anyone saying 'NO IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE TO ME I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD' then your just as froth-at-the-mouth defensive of your belief as you claim the far right is. They're just words.

Is that like not voting because you don't like the electees? Ya gotta try, dude. I'm pretty lukewarm about it myself in reality, but hey I'd like to see it happen more than not soo...

[Megaman]

This petition will probably never pass anyway, it'll provide small satasfaction to athiests but bother the religious to atleast twice of the extent. Anyone saying 'NO IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE TO ME I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD' then your just as froth-at-the-mouth defensive of your belief as you claim the far right is. They're just words.

Is that like not voting because you don't like the electees?

No, because the electees actually do something

[darkrider2]

The thing that pisses me off is when arguments over rascism and/or patriotism turn into "THIS IS THE NATION OF GOD", having god on our money can only support this asanine argument.

[Megaman]

Nah, they'd still say the same thing.

[Willfor]

Yeah, this would only, at best, treat a symptom. It's not even a band-aid solution because you're only going to make the people who disagree with this more defensive and entrenched for a superficial change.

[Gotdamnmiracle]

This petition will probably never pass anyway, it'll provide small satasfaction to athiests but bother the religious to atleast twice of the extent. Anyone saying 'NO IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE TO ME I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD' then your just as froth-at-the-mouth defensive of your belief as you claim the far right is. They're just words.

Is that like not voting because you don't like the electees?

No, because the electees actually do something

And the healthy argument and discussion sparked by this topic doesn't? Do you disagree that it was bound to happen at some point? Why not now?

[Megaman]

This petition will probably never pass anyway, it'll provide small satasfaction to athiests but bother the religious to atleast twice of the extent. Anyone saying 'NO IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE TO ME I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD' then your just as froth-at-the-mouth defensive of your belief as you claim the far right is. They're just words.

Is that like not voting because you don't like the electees?

No, because the electees actually do something

And the healthy argument and discussion sparked by this topic doesn't?

No, this discussion is just some guys typing into a forum, and this probably won't do anything important. If you mean on a national level, all it does is give both sides more oppotunity to yell about how thier either the 'RIGHTOUS CHOSEN ONES OF GOD' or the 'LOGICAL ATHIESTS THAT REFUSE YOUR SILLY SUPERSTITIONS!'

[Leafsnail]

It's not just about atheists why do you keep assuming it's just atheists.

[varnish]

But... this isn't religious people vs atheists. The issue is about the constitution, and about religious liberty. A government promoting one particular faith (In this case, Christianity) is an important issue, even if it's just words. They are words that people look at every day.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, Megaman?

[Megaman]

Most other major religions are monotheists, ain't they? Though yeah, it's probably ignorant on my part to assume it's athiests.

[Sir Finkus]

Most other major religions are monotheists, ain't they? Though yeah, it's probably ignorant on my part to assume it's athiests.

Even if we toss aside atheists, there are still some religions that find it offensive to even use the word "God".  Many orthodox Jews will write it "G-d".

I very much doubt the phrase will be removed any time in the near future, but it still shouldn't be there and I'll still make a fuss about it.  It may not be the most important issue, but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't speak their mind on it.  I also don't understand the whole "it will just piss of the fundementalists" argument.  So what?  Do you really thing they'll stop fighting to impose their other views on us simply because we let them keep "In God we trust" on the money?

[Frumple]

Most other major religions are monotheists, ain't they?

Um, the other big name religions outside the Abrahamic tradition are Buddhism (primarily non-theist) and Hinduism (Which is effectively polytheist, at least from the general Western understanding of it. Particulars are a bit more complicated and can vary.), at least as far as I know. So, uh. Not really?

Outside the Abraham trio and those two, what's left with a major (global, mind) population block? E: Or just American population block, really. Buddhism was apparently coming in forth with about .7% (Multiple millions, to help offset the apparent size of that.) of the population, back in '07.

[Heron TSG]

This petition will probably never pass anyway, it'll provide small satasfaction to athiests but bother the religious to atleast twice of the extent. Anyone saying 'NO IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE TO ME I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD' then your just as froth-at-the-mouth defensive of your belief as you claim the far right is. They're just words.

Hey, being a minority means my opinion matters less, right? I forgot about that. Excuse me while I support this petition, because democracy does not work by the majority (or very vocal minority) shouting down the minorities. It works by having everyone state an opinion and making a rational decision based on those.

[Kilroy the Grand]

This petition will probably never pass anyway, it'll provide small satasfaction to athiests but bother the religious to atleast twice of the extent. Anyone saying 'NO IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE TO ME I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD' then your just as froth-at-the-mouth defensive of your belief as you claim the far right is. They're just words.

Hey, being a minority means my opinion matters less, right? I forgot about that. Excuse me while I support this petition, because democracy does not work by the majority (or very vocal minority) shouting down the minorities. It works by having everyone state an opinion and making a rational decision based on those.

Actually... the USA is a republic because in a direct democracy only the side with the most votes matter.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

In a republic only the side with the most votes matters.

Liberty comes from having an immutable or nearly-immutable code of law that protects minority groups. In the US, that role is filled by the Constitution. Once a group is placed under it's protection, they'll be safe as long as the US stands.