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Author Topic: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov  (Read 31303 times)

Gotdamnmiracle

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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2012, 06:11:00 pm »

You just wait till Ayatollah Santorum gets elected.

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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2012, 06:15:44 pm »

Putting god on their crrency would be like putting "In gravity we trust." on your currency to them. Which actually I would be okay with. Gravity is a pretty stand up guy. He's always there and he knows how to bring you back down to earth.

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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2012, 06:20:21 pm »

Putting god on their crrency would be like putting "In gravity we trust." on your currency to them. Which actually I would be okay with. Gravity is a pretty stand up guy. He's always there and he knows how to bring you back down to earth.

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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2012, 06:23:51 pm »

You just wait till Ayatollah Santorum gets elected.
Santorum doesn't stand a chance. Only a small minority of Americans are Santorum-level conservative. 10% if I'm being generous. I have no doubt that the whacked-out party leaders in the GOP would love to see him in office, but it isn't going to happen. He's unelectable because he alienates all but that far-right minority, and while he might well get all of their support the rest of the nation will easily overwhelm it.
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2012, 06:24:22 pm »

Next petition: Illegalise religious symbols and holidays! Churchs illegalised and converted to state owned disco clubs!

But seriously, why all this fly-fucking? I mean, a little religion and colour to things dosent hurt :P
The "first" Americans were most likely some sort of Christians anyway.

And the founding fathers were diests. Why would they want anything mentioning god on their currency?

Putting god on their crrency would be like putting "In gravity we trust." on your currency to them. Which actually I would be okay with. Gravity is a pretty stand up guy. He's always there and he knows how to bring you back down to earth.

All hail Gravity, he is such a brother.
Also by first Americans i meant first American immigrants, not counting my viking ancestors. Sorry, its 00:24, technically 01:24 due to night summertime time. Damnit, i make too many logic and spelling fails, better head off to sleep.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 06:27:26 pm by DrPoo »
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2012, 06:32:59 pm »

They fleed their nation seeking religious freedom wasn't it?

Plus, I realize this is a blanket statement, but I believe that the first immigrants would abhor the way that we use religion to further political agendas, gather wealth, and standardize. That is what they were fleeing from after all, wasn't it?
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #81 on: March 24, 2012, 06:39:58 pm »

They fleed their nation seeking religious freedom wasn't it?

Plus, I realize this is a blanket statement, but I believe that the first immigrants would abhor the way that we use religion to further political agendas, gather wealth, and standardize. That is what they were fleeing from after all, wasn't it?

I dont know, im not American, i grew up in a much more friendly and forgiving, non profit religious enviroment, so well, sorry if i pulled something out of my ass.
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2012, 06:40:58 pm »

They fleed their nation seeking religious freedom wasn't it?

Plus, I realize this is a blanket statement, but I believe that the first immigrants would abhor the way that we use religion to further political agendas, gather wealth, and standardize. That is what they were fleeing from after all, wasn't it?

I dont know, im not American, i grew up in a much more friendly and forgiving, non profit religious enviroment, so well, sorry if i pulled something out of my ass.

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« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2012, 06:41:58 pm »

Well, some of the earliest settlers were Puritans, and the only religious freedom they were seeking was the kind for themselves. They wold not be happy about all the Jews and Catholics living here.

But that's the point. Our government doesn't come from their beliefs. It doesn't even come from the personal beliefs of the founding fathers. (which were pretty damn varied.) It comes from the constitution, and there's not a single mention of any god in there.
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« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2012, 06:42:33 pm »

Well, a number of them were Puritans, who fled Europe to practice their religion freely....and to oppress everyone who wouldn't adhere to their faith. They believed primarily in the Synthesis of Church and State, so they probably would be abhorred by the current situation because the Union isn't theocratic enough.

I believe it was Rhode Island that acted as a haven for religious outcasts before the Union, they might mind.
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #85 on: March 24, 2012, 06:43:10 pm »

They fleed their nation seeking religious freedom wasn't it?

Plus, I realize this is a blanket statement, but I believe that the first immigrants would abhor the way that we use religion to further political agendas, gather wealth, and standardize. That is what they were fleeing from after all, wasn't it?

I dont know, im not American, i grew up in a much more friendly and forgiving, non profit religious enviroment, so well, sorry if i pulled something out of my ass.

So you live on the moon?

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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2012, 06:43:26 pm »

They fleed their nation seeking religious freedom wasn't it?

Plus, I realize this is a blanket statement, but I believe that the first immigrants would abhor the way that we use religion to further political agendas, gather wealth, and standardize. That is what they were fleeing from after all, wasn't it?
Ehn, from what I understand it was more like they had sticks shoved so far up their arse the english kicked them out.

Parse that sentence for a bit. I tongue in cheek it a bit, sure, but yeah.

Religious persecution was in there, though, yeah, but from what I understand most of the ones that jumped ship due to religious persecution were basically pretty major extremists, which was why there was such backlash. Y'know how some of the more open minded in the States occasionally make comment about kicking the more extreme religious sects out? Pretty close to what the English actually did, though it was less "kick" and more "apply pressure until they go away."

Puritans and suchlike were kinda' assholes, though I say that in the least insulting way possible. I mean, they were at least some portion of my ancestors and all that rot. But yeah, American public education kinda' sugarcoats all that.
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2012, 06:47:12 pm »

They fleed their nation seeking religious freedom wasn't it?

Plus, I realize this is a blanket statement, but I believe that the first immigrants would abhor the way that we use religion to further political agendas, gather wealth, and standardize. That is what they were fleeing from after all, wasn't it?
Ehn, from what I understand it was more like they had sticks shoved so far up their arse the english kicked them out.

Parse that sentence for a bit. I tongue in cheek it a bit, sure, but yeah.

Religious persecution was in there, though, yeah, but from what I understand most of the ones that jumped ship due to religious persecution were basically pretty major extremists, which was why there was such backlash. Y'know how some of the more open minded in the States occasionally make comment about kicking the more extreme religious sects out? Pretty close to what the English actually did, though it was less "kick" and more "apply pressure until they go away."

Puritans and suchlike were kinda' assholes, though I say that in the least insulting way possible. I mean, they were at least some portion of my ancestors and all that rot. But yeah, American public education kinda' sugarcoats all that.

I don't doubt that I've been mislead by my educators or whatever.
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #88 on: March 24, 2012, 06:49:03 pm »

I didnt know know about that older motto, shame it was changed, it's definately lot cooler than the current.
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« Reply #89 on: March 24, 2012, 07:00:01 pm »

This petition will probably never pass anyway, it'll provide small satasfaction to athiests but bother the religious to atleast twice of the extent. Anyone saying 'NO IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE TO ME I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD' then your just as froth-at-the-mouth defensive of your belief as you claim the far right is. They're just words.
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