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Author Topic: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov  (Read 31258 times)

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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #135 on: March 25, 2012, 01:00:29 pm »

Pi is a ratio, so it'll never be a whole number in any measurement system.
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« Reply #136 on: March 25, 2012, 01:02:48 pm »

Unless the meaning of pi was changed, of course. What pi is currently describing wouldn't change, but the mathematical system it fits in and the definition of the word (or symbol, if you prefer) pi could change quite easily.
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« Reply #137 on: March 25, 2012, 01:08:36 pm »

This thread makes me thing about the whole pledge of allegiance deal they have in public schools. Why not take "One nation under God" out of the pledge if we can take it off the money? Not that anyone's forcing you (usually) to say the pledge whereas you're pretty much forced to use money.
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« Reply #138 on: March 25, 2012, 01:10:59 pm »

Considering that line was ALSO forced into a place it didn't belong and exists solely as a fuck you to the russians, yes, I think that would be a good idea.

It's not supposed to have the line in it - it messes up the rythm.
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« Reply #139 on: March 25, 2012, 01:11:15 pm »

This thread makes me thing about the whole pledge of allegiance deal they have in public schools. Why not take "One nation under God" out of the pledge if we can take it off the money? Not that anyone's forcing you (usually) to say the pledge whereas you're pretty much forced to use money.

I thought in order to gain citizenship you have to say the pledge at least once. Plus I think there are a few other situations where you have to say the pledge.
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« Reply #140 on: March 25, 2012, 01:15:19 pm »

How about we get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance in general? I'm happy and proud to be an American, surely, but it always kinda struck me as indoctrinating our youth.

While we're at it, let's just get rid of money too. Because, like, it isn't real man, it's just an idea.
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« Reply #141 on: March 25, 2012, 01:16:10 pm »

It's just ceremonial - it's after you've done everything you needed to do.
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« Reply #142 on: March 25, 2012, 01:16:30 pm »

This thread makes me thing about the whole pledge of allegiance deal they have in public schools. Why not take "One nation under God" out of the pledge if we can take it off the money? Not that anyone's forcing you (usually) to say the pledge whereas you're pretty much forced to use money.

I thought in order to gain citizenship you have to say the pledge at least once. Plus I think there are a few other situations where you have to say the pledge.

Which is something I don't understand. I didn't choose to be born in this country, I consider it more of a temporary residence. I guess I could understand it for an immigrant who wants to live here, but not me. Sorry, off to burn some American flags and piss on pictures of George Washington.

To the ninja above me: Money is the root of all evils, so yes I agree with you there.  ;D
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« Reply #143 on: March 25, 2012, 01:17:05 pm »

I'd love to get rid of the pledge. Nationalism ain't a good thing.

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« Reply #144 on: March 25, 2012, 01:17:10 pm »

Considering that line was ALSO forced into a place it didn't belong and exists solely as a fuck you to the russians, yes, I think that would be a good idea.

It's not supposed to have the line in it - it messes up the rythm.

This. The forced recital of it in public schools has always struck me as absurdly creepy, even more so when people act as if it some sort of venerable tradition rather than a remnant of McCarthyism..


If Christians get upset because the references to their god are removed from money, etc., so what? For that matter, the whole "sworn in on a Bible" thing is a much more serious triviality than the money. This is a secular nation , god damn it!.
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« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2012, 01:18:03 pm »

How about we get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance in general? I'm happy and proud to be an American, surely, but it always kinda struck me as indoctrinating our youth.

While we're at it, let's just get rid of money too. Because, like, it isn't real man, it's just an idea.

Honestly I am sort of glad I am not American with the sheer amount of crud you have to learn in school.

I learned Oh Canada (and it wasn't even required). One song a handful of provinces and their capitals.

You have to learn The Pledge, Two Songs, Every president, Every 50 States and their capitals, as well as learn why America is cool and why they saved everyone in every war single handedly.
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« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2012, 01:19:00 pm »

This thread makes me thing about the whole pledge of allegiance deal they have in public schools. Why not take "One nation under God" out of the pledge if we can take it off the money? Not that anyone's forcing you (usually) to say the pledge whereas you're pretty much forced to use money.

I thought in order to gain citizenship you have to say the pledge at least once. Plus I think there are a few other situations where you have to say the pledge.

Which is something I don't understand. I didn't choose to be born in this country, I consider it more of a temporary residence. I guess I could understand it for an immigrant who wants to live here, but not me. Sorry, off to burn some American flags and piss on pictures of George Washington.

To the ninja above me: Money is the root of all evils, so yes I agree with you there.  ;D
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« Reply #147 on: March 25, 2012, 01:21:13 pm »

For that matter, the whole "sworn in on a Bible" thing is a much more serious triviality than the money.
Wait, don't people swear on their respective holy books? Ie isn't swearing on Bible only for self-proclaimed Christians?
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Re: "Remove 'In God we trust' from legal tender" Petition on whitehouse.gov
« Reply #148 on: March 25, 2012, 01:21:52 pm »

For that matter, the whole "sworn in on a Bible" thing is a much more serious triviality than the money.
We should change it to swearing at the Bible. That would make things much more entertaining.
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« Reply #149 on: March 25, 2012, 01:23:37 pm »

You have to learn The Pledge, Two Songs, Every president, Every 50 States and their capitals, as well as learn why America is cool and why they saved everyone in every war single handedly.
And we forget every last bit of it within a year or two of leaving high school... if not sooner. If we even remember it for more than a weekday or two after the last time the school tests us on it. If we even attempt to pass said bloody tests to begin with. Etc., so forth.

We should change it to swearing at the Bible. That would make things much more entertaining.
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