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[Garath]

on a note with a previous post about domestic animals, any animals kept for their milk will die in the wild. They preoduce so much milk now, with no more barrier to protect themself, that they'd literally burst inside unless some other creature relieves them of the milk. When it is time to be milked, those animals don't just queue up because they get a handfull of a treat, but often also because it takes away the pain.

[Bilanthri]

An interesting study done with foxes has suggested that genetic make-up has a great deal to do with wether a species can be domesticated.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/03/taming-wild-animals/ratliff-text

Certainly an interesting read.

[Garath]

nature/nurture debate has been going on long time now, truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

I read the article now. wow. We domesticated ourself. Humans were the first domesticated animals.

Alright, that's a bit of an extreme statement, but it is implied.

[FrisianDude]

I suppose. Civilization, culturing, is more or less the same as domestication.

[malimbar04]

on a note with a previous post about domestic animals, any animals kept for their milk will die in the wild. They preoduce so much milk now, with no more barrier to protect themself, that they'd literally burst inside unless some other creature relieves them of the milk. When it is time to be milked, those animals don't just queue up because they get a handfull of a treat, but often also because it takes away the pain.

This is only half true. Milk production self-regulates, but we milk a SHITLOAD of milk off of these cows. I'm pretty sure that if we slowed milk production gradually, the amount of milk they produce would eventually slow down and stop. Granted, they're still not the most capable animals for protecting themselves and living in the wild, but that's another issue entirely.

[NW_Kohaku]

Cows also don't produce milk until they have had a calf.  They stop producing milk a few years after having that calf. 

We've just selectively bred them to produce way more milk than they normally would, and in so doing, we have also made them incredibly slow-moving and docile creatures that store most of their energy as fat or turn it into milk, so as to squeeze more efficiency out of the cows, and that makes them extremely unlikely to survive any predator large enough to effectively attack a cow.

[KodKod]

Especially if the predator in question happens to be a pack of velociraptors.

[Broseph Stalin]

I don't think reverting to savagery is random. I had two dingos trained one after the other revert in the space of seconds. Has science been done?

[Stormfeather]

As another data point, my two capybaras that were born semi-wild (well, the two survivors) both reverted in a short span of time (maybe a couple game days?), which also happened to be shortly after they grew into adults. I'm saddened by this, but it's my own fault - apparently my main animal trainer got offed somehow, and I didn't realize. -_-

E: Come to think of it... since they were born semi-wild, I'm not sure I ever actually assigned a trainer (or "any trainer") to them, so maybe that's why they reverted. Hrm, if I have more semi-wild critters born like that, I'll have to check and see if you have to assign a trainer, I imagine you do.

[NedeN]

Has anyone figured out how to change owners, I have 2 or 3 warhounds, and their owners have perished and now I cant seem to figure out how to change ownership, might be permanent for now?

[nightwhips]

Oh, I had a thought about "semi-wild poults". The save in which this occurred was carried over from 34.0... whatever is one prior to the current release. I'm actually unsure about when the eggs were laid relative to when I switched. So, more testing needs be done.

[neilll]

I'm feeling a bit dumb...  People say you need to make a training zone and then you can start training animals... But I can't seem to do that.

I use "i", create a rectangle, and then I see the options for the zone. Animal training has a question mark "?" beside it.

?: Animal Training

I know the key should be "t", but hitting t does nothing.

Same thing in z > Animals.  There are question marks where the keys should be.  ?: Training  ?: War  ?: Hunting
I try hitting t, w, etc. but they do nothing.

Anyone know why I'm seeing these question marks?

[Intro1827]

Do you have any animal trainers?

[NW_Kohaku]

Anyone know why I'm seeing these question marks?

Did you copy-paste your controls over from a previous version of the game?

If you did, then there is no key assigned to press to select that.

[neilll]

Did you copy-paste your controls over from a previous version of the game?

If you did, then there is no key assigned to press to select that.

Yes that's exactly what I did... Oops.  I'm new to DF, so I'm not sure of the best way to update to the latest release.  I have a few customizations in key bindings (for my mac keyboard), init.txt, and d_init.txt.  Do people have a standard way to merge their customizations into new releases?