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[Rominus]

In the various combat logs for my dwarves who wear leather, I've yet to see a deflect message.  It's always something like 'the [weapon] chips the bone through the leather [armor item]', or worse.  I've taken to equipping my marksdwarves with metal armor when available, but if I don't have enough metal, am I just as well off leaving them unarmored as giving them leather?

[zilpin]

Something is better than nothing.
That said, even copper is better than leather.

Leather is best used for dresses, robes, & hoods for uniforms.
They give full coverage, many can be worn, and help occasionally.

Keep in mind that armor does more than only deflect.  It also reduces the amount of damage done.  So when the combat log says the bone was chipped through the armor, without armor the bone may have been shattered.

[GoldenShadow]

depends on what you're fighting. leather armor can help against weaker creatures. Maybe make a serious injury only be a mild one. But against sharp weapons, it doesn't do much.

[Nibble]

Does heavy armour actually slow dwarves down? I'd imagine not, in which case it seems there is no upside to using leather armour.

[GoldenShadow]

It does, but its not very noticeable. Once you have Candy armor, it weighs less than everything.

[Rominus]

Keep in mind that armor does more than only deflect.  It also reduces the amount of damage done.  So when the combat log says the bone was chipped through the armor, without armor the bone may have been shattered.

I had no idea that was the case!  Thanks! 

Time to get all by dwarves into leather robes...it's kinky druid fortress!    They do live in a rainforest, so hey, why not.

[slothen]

if you have plenty of leather and aren't going to put mail shirts on them, you might try adding leather chest armor.  Its 'shaped' which might mean it provides additional resistance to blunt attacks, and of course you can have them wear both.

[AWdeV]

But if you have goblins then they'll happily supply you with plenty of metal breastplates.

[Loud Whispers]

That said, even copper is better than leather.

Copper isn't bad, it's just not the best

[Rominus]

But if you have goblins then they'll happily supply you with plenty of metal breastplates.

I'm apparently in a low-goblin environment.  Only one goblin siege (single squad) so far, along with 2 titans and a undead siege.  And half the goblins died in the river where I can't get their stuff.

I even have a high fortress value, due to ridiculous amounts of kaolinite.  I've been porcelaining all the things.  Porcelain trade goods?  Check.  Porcelain brick workshops?  Check.  Porcelain statues?  Check.  Porcelain bridges?  Check!  Next up is porcelain flooring.  I've never struck the stuff before, apparently because I was destined to get all of it in this fortress!

[nenjin]

Do mail shirts provide armor coverage on your back? I'm pretty sure breastplates dont, because every time I take a hit in the back wearing it, it hits on the cloak layer. (And promptly goes straight through.)

[Ashery]

if you have plenty of leather and aren't going to put mail shirts on them, you might try adding leather chest armor.  Its 'shaped' which might mean it provides additional resistance to blunt attacks, and of course you can have them wear both.

Negative.

|S| = shaped item, max one |S| per body slot (e.g. plate mail cannot be worn with leather armor, but can be worn with chain mail, and greaves and leggings cannot be combined).

While it's not terribly useful in combat, it should be noted that leather armour will at least allow your new recruits to train up their armour skill while waiting for your metal production to catch up to the demand.

[xordae]

For some items, leather is still the ideal material. Hoods, cloaks, mittens, trousers, waterskins, backpacks and quivers. Then cloth socks and full steel gear on top of all that. You can even do multiple layers of cloaks and stuff like that, personally I think that's just being silly. And with the new clothing changes, having that many rotting items on every dwarf will put that much more strain on the leather industry.

[GoldenShadow]

Leather is hard to get without trading. Every animal, no matter how large just gives one tanned skin. So you are forced to breed tons of puppies. I wish you could just breed a few large ones, like cows or yaks and get like 20 leather per butcher

[highmax28]

Leather is hard to get without trading. Every animal, no matter how large just gives one tanned skin. So you are forced to breed tons of puppies. I wish you could just breed a few large ones, like cows or yaks and get like 20 leather per butcher

It would be more like 1 for dog, 2 for sheep, 5 for cow, and so on depending on how many dogs can fit in that animal