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Total Members Voted: 34

[MaximumZero]

Octopode Assassin?

[GlyphGryph]

That... might actually be reasonable. They get a hefty stealth bonus. Their aptitude is lower than the nagas, but I think their cap is the highest in the game. (could be wrong)

But the class will be random, so we'll see. I think I'll just let people choose the race, then Xom can choose the class.

[Delta Foxtrot]

It'd be interesting to see what you can get out of an octopede run.

[Un67]

I say centaurs, for the sake of choosing more races that are survivable and will allow you to go further.

[GlyphGryph]

I met Xomling's ghost while playing as another character.

He was a total dick.

[GlyphGryph]

Okay, starting the next character! Looks like I'm going to be a Draconian with a Random Class! Let's see how it rolls...

                                     Ailert the Ruffian
                                     Draconian
                                     Health: 16/16     ========================
                                     Magic:  1/1       ========================
                                     AC:  4            Str: 12
                                     EV: 12            Int: 13
                                     SH:  0            Dex: 11
                  ######             XL:  1 Next:  0%  Place: Dungeon:1
             ### #P♣....             Wp: -) Nothing wielded
             #♣<#P♣..≈≈≈#            Qv: -) Nothing quivered
              #♣@....8≈#
             #♣<#P♣..≈≈≈#
             ### #P♣....
                  ######


 Welcome, Ailert the Draconian Transmuter.
 The destiny of this world depends on the Orb of Zot. Go down and get it!

Ailert the Ruffian (Draconian Transmuter)                                                                                       Turns: 0, Time: 00:00:30
HP  16/16        AC  4     Str 12      XL: 1   Next:  0%
MP   1/1         EV 12     Int 13      God:
Gold 20          SH  0     Dex 11      Spells:  1 memorised,  3 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .      - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : . .  (armour unavailable)
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    (no shield)
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    (helmet restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .    (no cloak)
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    (no gloves)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    (no boots)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    (no ring)
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: +    (no ring)

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: unfitting armour
a: no special abilities

     Skill            Level Train  Apt       Skill            Level Train  Apt 
 a + Fighting          1.1    6%   +1    f + Stabbing          0.0          0   
 b + Unarmed Combat    3.0   36%    0    g + Traps & Doors     0.0          0   
                                                                         
 c + Throwing          0.0         -1    h + Spellcasting      2.0   24%    0   
                                         i + Transmutations    2.0   17%    0   
 d + Dodging           1.7   17%   -1                                     
 e + Stealth           0.0         -1

the book of Changes

 Spells                             Type                      Level
 a - Beastly Appendage            Transmutation                 1
 b - Sticks to Snakes             Transmutation                 2
 c - Spider Form                  Transmutation/Poison          3
 d - Ice Form                     Ice/Transmutation             4
 e - Blade Hands                  Transmutation                 5                                   



Momma always said I could be anything. And soon, son, she said, you're gonna be an adult. And I was pretty smart, so she gave me this here book from her library, and told me to go get her this here Orb for her horde while she's busy takin' care of the rest of the litter. She trusts me so much!

Now, where is this orb thing...

So where should I go with this dude? What skills should I focus on first?

RECOVERED FROM A BOOK FOUND IN THE DUNGEON BY LATER EXPLORERS

We were in the dungeon no more than a few moments before swatting down a bothersome bat and grabbing and smashing a gibbering goblin.  The real trouble came with the kobold though. Nasty bugger, man to sink his sword into soft places several times before I realized what a threat he was. He was not tough to kill, but I realized I was incredibly lucky to survive his initial assault when I almost collapsed from the blood loss.

While I recover my wits, leaning against this wall, I've decided to track what I've done in the back of momma's book.

I hope there's no more nasty surprises like that on the way to this orb thing. I just want to grab that and get out.

[Basque]

I think Transmuter was a pretty decent get for a random Draconian class. I believe Draconians get extra unarmed natural attacks, and Blade Hands also uses unarmed combat. We might be able to do a lot of damage using those together, so unarmed combat is a good thing to train. However, I played Crawl a bit and learned you definitely need ranged/magic capabilities, so be on the lookout for spellbooks and some kind of ranged weapon.

Otherwise we'll have to see which color we get.

[Frumple]

Draconians also get a dragon form synergy if Gryph makes it that far.

Anywaaay. Spiderform, win game through 'till lair. Basically. Then otherstuff. Not sure what a decent god is, though. I'd probably go with Sif for book access or maybe Ashenzari because shapeshift but eh.

[Basque]

Oh, good point Frumple! I wasn't thinking about deities. If we are presumably being more magic focused Sif is the basic choice, but Vehemet might work if we needed the destructive focus instead of a wider range of effects.

[Frumple]

Vehe'd actually be better if you were going for a wider range of effects, since he helps out with summoning and conjuration stuff (I.e. don't have to dip as much into those two to get combat-functional casting levels, so more XP for transmutations and unarmed combat/dodge/stealth), yeah, and offers up specific books (and sooner). Sif gives a higher likelihood of upperlevel transmute spells, but meanders about getting there and takes a while anyway; plus she doesn't help you cast, just not blow up when you screw up. Channeling can help every caster, though~ Kiku probably wouldn't hurt either, really; vampiric drain would probably help tons and the rest of it's not terrible.

Transmuter book starts you off with what you need to be a brutal UC character (Ice/spider form, blade hands), so most transmuters go melee-primary, at least from what I understand. About the only god that wouldn't help, though, would be Trog and Xom (for obvious reasons ).

Anyway, I popped up a DrTr for a quick run and got to D:5 clvl 6 in like a half-hour, so it definitely seems pretty viable early game. Just appendage junk and melee everything to death until you get spider form... and then do it some more, just faster and poison-y I'm probably going to go Ash because I keep thinking Ash is awesome despite never actually getting anywhere with an Ashenzari character (mostly because I've never really tried, ha.).

E: Make that clvl 8, D:7 just cleared. Seriously need to do some use IDing on the scrolls and potions but g'damn, things going entirely too well.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11-a0-650-gc9ec6dd character file.

Bin the Insei (Red Draconian Transmuter)            Turns: 6897, Time: 00:32:24

HP  62/62        AC 10     Str 13      XL: 8   Next:  5%
MP  13/13        EV 14     Int 14      God: Ashenzari [......]
Gold 398         SH  0     Dex 13      Spells:  4 memorised,  4 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .      - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : . .  (armour unavailable)
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    (no shield)
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    (helmet restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .    s - +0 cloak
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    y - +0 pair of gloves of the Hare {MR Acc+6}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    A - +1 pair of boots
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    t - ring of regeneration
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: +    w - ring of wizardry

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: breathe fire, unfitting armour, fire resistance 1
a: Breathe Fire, Renounce Religion


You are on level 7 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is noncommittal.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels.

You have collected 378 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 l - an uncursed sling
 D - an uncursed runed elven blowgun
 F - an uncursed whip of venom
Missiles
 b - 43 +0 arrows
 f - 2 exploding darts
 h - 3 needles of confusion
 q - 88 stones (quivered)
 z - 46 poisoned needles
Armour
 s - a +0 cloak (worn)
 y - the cursed +0 pair of gloves of the Hare (worn) {MR Acc+6}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your accuracy (+6).
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 A - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 K - an uncursed runed elven buckler
Magical devices
 O - a glowing ivory wand
Comestibles
 a - 4 bread rations
 H - a meat ration
 I - a pear
Scrolls
 e - 2 scrolls labeled PINUBO THRURCH
 k - a scroll of curse armour
 m - a scroll labeled POHUTZ FOMUPSE
 o - 3 scrolls labeled HEOJIDGH DUAN
 r - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 v - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 x - 2 scrolls labeled VIECEDYEDYSCH
 C - 3 scrolls of identify
 E - a scroll labeled CHAYJU ROCS
 L - 2 scrolls labeled SMOGOPN OLIXO
 N - a scroll labeled DUASHR HEYNIZXUFF
Jewellery
 t - a ring of regeneration (right hand)
 w - a ring of wizardry (left hand)
 G - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 M - an uncursed ring of see invisible
Potions
 c - 3 metallic pink potions
 g - 5 potions of curing
 i - a glowing black potion
 j - a black potion
 n - a viscous brown potion
 p - a metallic purple potion
 u - a fizzy white potion
 B - an oily green potion
Books
 d - a book of Changes   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Beastly Appendage                 Transmutation                1
   *Sticks to Snakes                  Transmutation                2
   *Spider Form                       Transmutation/Poison         3
   Ice Form                           Ice/Transmutation            4
   Blade Hands                        Transmutation                5
 J - a book of Spatial Translocations   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Apportation                        Translocation                1
   Portal Projectile                  Translocation                2
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   Shroud of Golubria                 Charms/Translocation         2
   Teleport Other                     Translocation                3
   Passage of Golubria                Translocation                4
   Control Teleport                   Charms/Translocation         4


   Skills:
 + Level 3.1 Fighting
 + Level 4.5 Dodging
 + Level 1.7 Stealth
 * Level 6.0 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 2.7 Spellcasting
 + Level 3.5 Transmutations
 - Level 2.5 Poison Magic


You have 4 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Beastly Appendage     Trmt           ###....      2%          1    Sultana
b - Sticks to Snakes      Trmt           ###.......   3%          2    Choko
c - Spider Form           Trmt/Pois      ###.......   8%          3    Honeycomb
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          13%         2    Choko


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (7/27)             Temple (1/1) D:6         
   Orc: D:6-11     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:5: %

Annotations
D:2 exclusion: door


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can breathe blasts of fire.*
Your fiery red scales are hard (AC +6).*
Your body does not fit into most forms of armour.
Your flesh is heat resistant.*


Message History

The crimson imp completely misses you.
You hit the crimson imp but do no damage.
The crimson imp is moderately wounded.
The crimson imp barely misses you.
You miss the crimson imp.
The crimson imp is moderately wounded.
The crimson imp hits you but does no damage.
You hit the crimson imp. You headbutt the crimson imp.
You kill the crimson imp!
Your Unarmed Combat skill increases to level 6!
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Your transformation is almost over.
Your horns disappear.
Done exploring.
Done exploring.
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, Bin the Red Draconian Transmuter.
Ashenzari says: Partake of my vision. Partake of my curse.
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  2 centaurs
  A phantom (D:7)
  2 giant frogs (D:6)
  3 crimson imps
  A hound (D:3)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:2)
  2 scorpions
  2 orc priests (D:5)
  5 orc wizards
  A worker ant (D:6)
  Jessica (D:2)
  9 adders
  An adder skeleton (D:7)
  3 worms
  A giant eyeball (D:7)
  13 orcs
  8 bats
  5 giant cockroaches
  22 goblins
  15 hobgoblins
  10 jackals
  8 kobolds
  An ooze (D:2)
  3 ball pythons
  2 giant geckos
  7 giant newts
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5)
  A kobold skeleton (D:7)
  2 orc skeletons
  2 quokkas
  8 rats
  A toadstool (D:2)
144 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A goblin (D:1)
1 creature vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A kobold (D:7)
  A rat (D:2)
  4 toadstools
6 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 151 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Bin, the Draconian Transmuter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 1/1
   422 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 23/23 MP: 0/3
   471 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Sticks to Snakes
  1020 | D:1      | Noticed a phantom
  1408 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/28 MP: 2/4
  1422 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spider Form
  1708 | D:2      | Noticed Jessica
  1714 | D:2      | Killed Jessica
  1714 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
  1832 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 32/35 MP: 4/6
  1884 | D:2      | Noticed a crimson imp
  1951 | D:2      | Killed a crimson imp
  2135 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
  2275 | D:2      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  2417 | D:2      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  2429 | D:2      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  2429 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 27/41 MP: 4/7
  3776 | D:4      | Got a pair of crude gloves
  3777 | D:4      | Identified the +0 pair of gloves of the Hare (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  3859 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  4273 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4386 | D:5      | Found Betyx's Food Shop.
  4436 | D:5      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 48/48 MP: 6/9
  4576 | D:5      | Got a smoking mace
  4577 | D:5      | Identified the cursed +0,-2 mace of Biciar (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  4642 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  4701 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  5196 | D:6      | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
  5439 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5445 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5623 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  5716 | D:6      | Your scales start taking on a fiery red colour.
  5716 | D:6      | Gained mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. [draconian maturity]
  5716 | D:6      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 55/55 MP: 6/10
  6348 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6836 | D:7      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 45/62 MP: 10/13
  6876 | D:7      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat

[Dr.Feelgood]

Transmuter was my favorite class. I think I won with a DrTm awhile ago. I recommend worshiping Sif. I picked Vehumet, but he wasn't very useful and I never found a book with Dragon Form.

Dragon Form is awesome, especially as a draconian. They have a much easier time casting it and they get a few nifty bonuses for being in Dragon Form. DrTm is also fun in Sprint games. Sadly, transmuters got nerfed are are much weaker now.

[Un67]

Actually, if you want more magical diversity, get Kiku. Renewable healing, undead meatshields, trivialization of almost all undead, single target Torment, and a bunch of other stuff I've probably forgotten... what's not to like?

Granted, you'll be missing out on the pain weapon as a transmuter, but Haunt is a nice consolation prize.

[GlyphGryph]

Might my eventual color matter? Maybe I should wait until I get a color before deciding?

[Frumple]

Ehn, you can probably safely ignore color re: god choice. About the only one that'd make much of a difference would be ending up purple if you were going Sif, from what I'm reading of the apts. Well, and obviously the green/TSO thing. I forget if that conflict's been tweaked any.

[Basque]

The color you get can affect your Elemental spell skills but not things like Transmutations or Necromancy or etc.

It would definitely be great if we could survive long enough to use Dragon Form. Apparently using Necromutation and Sif's Channel ability is the high-level magic user's strategy, if we last that long. Kiku does grant Necromancy books but not the channel ability.

Also Vehemet's wrath is apparently not bad so if we get him early (like in the Temple) we could get his 6 books and then abandon him. That gives use the best Conjurations and Summons and then whatever abilities of who we switch to.

We get our color at XL 7, what DL are we expecting to be at then?