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kuliksco

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Which civilization to pick?
« on: March 21, 2012, 11:44:11 pm »

I'm a little confused about picking my starting civ.  Am I always going to be dwarves?  I tried a few games and I usually just picked the civ closest like captnduck said to where I was located but lots of times I wouldn't get the resources I wanted like an iron anvil.

Is there a way to tell what race the civ is and what resources they might have access before I pick them?  What are the other benefits to picking a good civilization?  Also, if I didn't pick the one next to me would I be more likely to be at war with them?  Are some civs automatically at war with each other?

I'm also confused about the icons on the world map.  I tried building next to some civ icons but didn't see anything on the map in game.  Is this possibly just territory they control but without a fort?
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Re: Which civilization to pick?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 12:10:21 am »

All civilizations that you can embark as are dwarven civilizations, unless the game is modded otherwise.

You can always know a civ is dwarven, of course. Resources are harder; the civ has access to all of the resources that are nearby one of its settlements, but without DFHack you can't actually tell what specific resource types are available. On the other hand, if a civ's settlements are near places with flux stone or aquifers and multiple shallow metals, they're more likely to have access to iron.

Big civilizations have several advantages. They have more settlements, so they're more likely to have access to any particular resource. They have a larger population, which means more variety in the migrants that come (assuming you're on the more recent versions). That larger population also makes it more likely for you to have vampires; always a plus.

You'll never be at war with any dwarven civilization when you play a dwarven civilization. If you didn't embark near your parent civ, however, you're less likely to be near the goblin, human, or elven civs that your civ is at war with, making it take longer for the goblins to attack you in force and less likely that the humans or elves will attack you at all.

Goblins are automatically hostile to dwarves, though that's different from being at war with them. Goblins will always send snatchers, ambush squads, and, eventually sieges, but if you're actually at war with them, they'll siege earlier and ramp up sieges' size faster.

The civ icons on the world map means that they have several settlements in the area whose collective zone of control basically covers the whole world tile. The up shot, again, is that civs with more world tiles controlled have more settlements.
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Re: Which civilization to pick?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 07:07:13 am »

Somewhat related; it seems one can have war with multiple goblin civilizations at the same time, right?
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Re: Which civilization to pick?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 03:10:45 pm »

Only one goblin civ will ever attack you though

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Re: Which civilization to pick?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 05:20:18 pm »

Well, no. If that was the case I'd never have noticed it. My militia Dwarfs are 'enemy of' two different Goblin civilizations, looking at the name, and of one Kobold civ.
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