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[Servant Corps]

From Cult's Kickstarter page:

I wonder... Do we have anyone here who pledged $250 and above who have had any biweekly IM's?
That would go a long way to provide potential proof of credibility on Hagar's part...
If not should we be considering or at least looking into contacting kickstarter about this, and looking into the legality of Hagar's actions? And possibly look into criminal charges of fraud.

Which brings me another question: are these legal threats likely to turn into actual lawsuits, or are they just empty words coming from people who are angry at losing money? On the one hand, the TOS does state that it you cannot provide a backer's rewards, you must give a refund. On the other hand, lawsuits are expensive. They have to justify to a lawyer why should he go through all that effort just to collect $35,000.

[MrWiggles]

From Cult's Kickstarter page:

I wonder... Do we have anyone here who pledged $250 and above who have had any biweekly IM's?
That would go a long way to provide potential proof of credibility on Hagar's part...
If not should we be considering or at least looking into contacting kickstarter about this, and looking into the legality of Hagar's actions? And possibly look into criminal charges of fraud.

Which brings me another question: are these legal threats likely to turn into actual lawsuits, or are they just empty words coming from people who are angry at losing money? On the one hand, the TOS does state that it you cannot provide a backer's rewards, you must give a refund. On the other hand, lawsuits are expensive. They have to justify to a lawyer why should he go through all that effort just to collect $35,000.

I think they're as forceful as putting up legal writs on your facebook wall. I also think it serves to show that you shouldnt put your product as a guaranteed part of the rewards. And just toss it in as a bonus. And some how imply that certain reward tiers will get'em.

[JWNoctis]

From Cult's Kickstarter page:

I wonder... Do we have anyone here who pledged $250 and above who have had any biweekly IM's?
That would go a long way to provide potential proof of credibility on Hagar's part...
If not should we be considering or at least looking into contacting kickstarter about this, and looking into the legality of Hagar's actions? And possibly look into criminal charges of fraud.

Which brings me another question: are these legal threats likely to turn into actual lawsuits, or are they just empty words coming from people who are angry at losing money? On the one hand, the TOS does state that it you cannot provide a backer's rewards, you must give a refund. On the other hand, lawsuits are expensive. They have to justify to a lawyer why should he go through all that effort just to collect $35,000.

Unless one of the people who are angry at losing money is a lawyer who is angry enough to represent this with his/her own otherwise paid time in a class action suit, probably no.

This really injures kickstarter's credibility, and sadly not going to be the last one.

I think they're as forceful as putting up legal writs on your facebook wall. I also think it serves to show that you shouldnt put your product as a guaranteed part of the rewards. And just toss it in as a bonus. And some how imply that certain reward tiers will get'em.

I bet some projects are already doing that. Kind of unavoidable.

[lordcooper]

I have no issue with projects I've backed failing (as is undoubtedly going to happen for at least a few), so long as they have genuinely failed and the creator both acknowledges and informs us of this.

[Draco18s]

I also think it serves to show that you shouldnt put your product as a guaranteed part of the rewards. And just toss it in as a bonus. And some how imply that certain reward tiers will get'em.

Funnily enough, V!C! made statements to the effect of "if it goes to print, then" kind of wording originally.  I think the only reward tiers that were guaranteed (at the start) to get physical stuff was the $250 and the $500 slots, figuring that even if all else fails, we could produce 1 or 2 copies with that kind of cash.

[Aklyon]

Does 'pre-kickstarter' count for this thread?

[Darvi]

Think that's already been mentioned.

[Draco18s]

Think that's already been mentioned.

Twice

[Darvi]

So bad we had to mention  it thrice?

[JWNoctis]

Out of curiousity, how many times was Your World mentioned in this thread? Comparatively, this one is probably only better to a certain degree. Unless they could get us something much more convincing and -probably- scale down.

[The Darkling Wolf]

Your world was a continuing saga of hookerbots and robot crabs and guild banks.


GUILD BANKS

[lordcooper]

!!GUILD BANKS!!

[Darvi]

We did have a hookerbot invasion in the upper boards a few weeks ago. COINCIDENCE?

[The Darkling Wolf]

Did we mention that Your World was going to have Guild Banks yet?

[Rose]

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