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Author Topic: When Kickstarter goes wrong?  (Read 680444 times)

olemars

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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1815 on: December 05, 2012, 04:27:15 am »

According to the RPS article, they did want it to fail. Or rather, they wanted it to double its target since they reached 100K on an earlier failed 500K kickstarter. The article also quotes the dev with "I had already contributed an extensive amount of my own money to the Kickstarter". Not 100% sure what was meant there, but I hope he wasn't contributing to his own kickstarter.

Surely seems to be many layers of fail present here.
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« Reply #1816 on: December 07, 2012, 12:50:58 am »

If I understand this project correctly, he just wanted to remake MULE right? Not sure whether a remake would justify $500,000 in the first place.

EDIT: And apparently MULE was already remade anyway so...the project seems even more pointless.

EDIT2: If "donating to your own Kickstarter so as to secure other people's donations" is a valid tactic, my respect for Kickstarter has dropped tremendously. The platform is far too open to abuse.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 01:00:52 am by Servant Corps »
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1817 on: December 07, 2012, 03:33:54 am »

EDIT2: If "donating to your own Kickstarter so as to secure other people's donations" is a valid tactic, my respect for Kickstarter has dropped tremendously. The platform is far too open to abuse.

It's not a valid tactic, it's against the rules and considered money laundering by banks.
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« Reply #1818 on: December 07, 2012, 03:38:18 am »

EDIT2: If "donating to your own Kickstarter so as to secure other people's donations" is a valid tactic, my respect for Kickstarter has dropped tremendously. The platform is far too open to abuse.

It's not a valid tactic, it's against the rules and considered money laundering by banks.

It wouldn't be money laundering... though it being against the rules is certainly telling.

I actually had no issue with donating to yourself "IF" there is an actual obligation to use that money... but when I look at what most people use the money on.

A lot of kickstarters do not use their donations on the game. A lot of them are really "Pay me for an extended vacation so I can work on this game more".

I mean I cannot blame some of them for pocketing their funding when they are overfunded... but still there is a certain part of me that goes "Wait... we are paying you to make a game, that you will sell and pocket the money? I am feeling almost like there is an inbalance here"
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« Reply #1819 on: December 07, 2012, 04:11:04 am »

Here's an interesting case. MIT startup successfully funds their 3D printer project with almost $3 million in pledges (30 times their $100K goal). Less than a month later the patent infringement lawsuit appears.

Here's the patent in question: ”Simultaneous multiple layer curing in stereolithography.”
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« Reply #1820 on: December 07, 2012, 08:56:59 am »

Well, at least 3D Systems actually does produce 3D printers.
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« Reply #1821 on: December 07, 2012, 09:38:18 am »

EDIT2: If "donating to your own Kickstarter so as to secure other people's donations" is a valid tactic, my respect for Kickstarter has dropped tremendously. The platform is far too open to abuse.

It's not a valid tactic, it's against the rules and considered money laundering by banks.

It wouldn't be money laundering... though it being against the rules is certainly telling.

Also, Amazon will detect you paying yourself and lock your funds, preventing you from getting that money entirely.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1822 on: December 07, 2012, 01:23:57 pm »

If the project has multiple people working on it though you could likely get around that.
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« Reply #1823 on: December 07, 2012, 03:12:42 pm »

If the project has multiple people working on it though you could likely get around that.

Yes, it's entirely possible.  At which point you have to consider the 5-10% fee for using the service (both Kickstarter and Amazon take a cut).

But yes, in the case of the project that failed by $28 it'd have been worth calling up Grandma and telling her you'll pay her back.
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« Reply #1824 on: December 07, 2012, 03:48:19 pm »

The major difference between Kickstarter and real life is mostly...

Kickstarter fully supports and encourages Imbezzlement.

It is actually one of my largest issues with it. You never can know how much someone imbezzles and by all means they have the "right" to imbezzle.

Kickstarter is only against being obvious about the fact that all the kickstarter is, is a "give me money" drive.

Note: I am somewhat aware that Embezzle is spelt incorrectly.
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« Reply #1825 on: December 07, 2012, 06:03:40 pm »

Kickstarter fully supports and encourages Imbezzlement.

Embezzlement.  With an E.
Your browser has a spellchecker for a reason.

Secondly: ENCOURAGES?

Note: I am somewhat aware that Embezzle is spelt incorrectly.

1) Spell it correctly please
2) "Spelled" is the correct past tense version of "to spell."
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 06:05:33 pm by Draco18s »
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« Reply #1826 on: December 07, 2012, 06:10:13 pm »

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No it really doesn't.
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« Reply #1827 on: December 07, 2012, 06:12:46 pm »

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No it really doesn't.

The hell are you using?  Internet Explorer 6?
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« Reply #1828 on: December 07, 2012, 07:31:22 pm »

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No it really doesn't.

The hell are you using?  Internet Explorer 6?
Maybe he's trying to say that his browser has a spell-check for no reason.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1829 on: December 07, 2012, 09:03:37 pm »

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1330163305/hexels-the-completely-modular-settlers-of-catan-ga

So that kickstarter, from what I can is to make large enough order for custom set of Catan Board Pieces. Its not to start a business, exactly, or fund making the new board pieces. Its to make a large enough order that it wont be stupidly expensive.
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