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[kaijyuu]

I think many non-douchebags would be very tempted to make that fallacy.

And if they do, they fall immediately into douchebag territory.



The problem with this stuff has never been that existed at all, but the ubiquity. In video games, it's damn near impossible to find a non-scantily clad woman. Card games... I dunno, since I'm not really into them. Either way, I wouldn't single out individual examples as "bad" but rather point to the industry as a whole as being dumb and catering to a small portion of their audience.

I have nothing against outright porn, so some titillation obviously doesn't bother me either. Good representation is what I care about, from a variety standpoint (as I'm selfish and like a variety of character traits on every front, including physical), as well as a role model standpoint (the media has some responsibility in that department -- what are we glorifying and what are we demonizing?).

This particular game reminds me of those face card decks with nude women on them. A half joke, half suggestive eye waggle.

[Karlito]

Huh, apparently that publisher has already made the exact same game.

[Megaman]

Nothing sells better than Japanese-influenced boobs.

[Draco18s]

Huh, apparently that publisher has already made the exact same game.

It's Dominion with Japanese maids.  I've seen a copy and heard it was fairly good.  But the one time I attempted to play it, I was running on four hours of sleep, after being awake for 14 hours, and lacking the rules (and/or being too lazy to read them).

[lordcooper]

Like the way many people make the assumption that Muslims are terrorists, a perfectly reasonable person who is not exposed to evidence suggesting otherwise would also believe such a thing very willingly.

No, that is not a reasonable person.

[Kilroy the Grand]

I don't think those games are being misogynistic, they are just catering to their audience, men. Men like big bouncy breasts, being a coolest muthafucka around, blasting off heads, and throwing money at hookers.

It's why I liked Duke Nukem back in the day, Why I really enjoyed bayonetta. Whining that games are disrespecting women won't solve a damn thing, as long as those games sell (and sell they do) they will. The only way developers will make games that cater to women is if there is a demand.

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Lollipop Chainsaw is an amazing game, and you should play it.

[kaijyuu]

Like the way many people make the assumption that Muslims are terrorists, a perfectly reasonable person who is not exposed to evidence suggesting otherwise would also believe such a thing very willingly.

No, that is not a reasonable person.

Indeed. Coming to bullshit conclusions with lack of evidence is exactly the problem. Any excuse along the lines of "they didn't have enough information" only makes it worse!

Men like big bouncy breasts, being a coolest muthafucka around, blasting off heads, and throwing money at hookers.

Either I'm not a man, or your statements are a little too generalized.

[Scelly9]

Men like big bouncy breasts, being a coolest muthafucka around, blasting off heads, and throwing money at hookers.

Either I'm not a man, or your statements are a little too generalized.

Agreed.

[Megaman]

Like the way many people make the assumption that Muslims are terrorists, a perfectly reasonable person who is not exposed to evidence suggesting otherwise would also believe such a thing very willingly.

No, that is not a reasonable person.

Why not? If you grew up with nothing to disprove a notion, and then found nothing to disprove it, it would be seen as a completely reasonable view. However, thanks to the internet, and a larger amount of information available to the average person today, it's very easy to find counter evidence to the belief that, say, all Muslims are terrorists. All that has to be done is to prevent 'evidence' that the assumption is wrong from gaining credibility, and to create more that propose rational thinking. The boy that thinks that indeed all Muslims are terrorists may have the inevitable epiphany on how the way of thinking he has developed is flawed faster. How do you think the young boys in Nazi Germany who joined the Hitler Youth movement were so fanatical about Adolph Hitler's cause? He was all they knew, not that they have some kind of deficiency.

[Putnam]

Men like big bouncy breasts, being a coolest muthafucka around, blasting off heads, and throwing money at hookers.

Either I'm not a man, or your statements are a little too generalized.

Agreed.

They're perfectly generalized. You, as many people in this forum, are exceptions. Exceptions don't make generalizations invalid.

[Kilroy the Grand]

Men like big bouncy breasts, being a coolest muthafucka around, blasting off heads, and throwing money at hookers.

Either I'm not a man, or your statements are a little too generalized.

It's okay if you like flat chested women, But who doesn't like violence? And who doesn't like bludgeoning prostitutes to death with a sack of money? It would do 1d4 or at least 1d3 of damage.

[kaijyuu]

Like the way many people make the assumption that Muslims are terrorists, a perfectly reasonable person who is not exposed to evidence suggesting otherwise would also believe such a thing very willingly.

No, that is not a reasonable person.

Why not? If you grew up with nothing to disprove a notion, and then found nothing to disprove it, it would be seen as a completely reasonable view. However, thanks to the internet, and a larger amount of information available to the average person today, it's very easy to find counter evidence to the belief that, say, all Muslims are terrorists. All that has to be done is to prevent 'evidence' that the assumption is wrong from gaining credibility, and to create more that propose rational thinking. The boy that thinks that indeed all Muslims are terrorists may have the inevitable epiphany on how the way of thinking he has developed is flawed faster. How do you think the young boys in Nazi Germany who joined the Hitler Youth movement were so fanatical about Adolph Hitler's cause? He was all they knew, not that they have some kind of deficiency.

I think you're conflating "normal" with "reasonable." A normal person quote often uses logical fallacies aplenty. A reasonable person does not.

We don't have shit like racism due to people being reasonable. We have those things due to people being normal and instinctual.

Men like big bouncy breasts, being a coolest muthafucka around, blasting off heads, and throwing money at hookers.

Either I'm not a man, or your statements are a little too generalized.

Agreed.

They're perfectly generalized. You, as many people in this forum, are exceptions. Exceptions don't make generalizations invalid.

Generalizations being generalizations make them invalid.

Anyway, I'd bet money that MOST men are exceptions to one or all of those rules. A significant portion do follow those stereotypes, but not that much.

It's okay if you like flat chested women, But who doesn't like violence? And who doesn't like bludgeoning prostitutes to death with a sack of money? It would do 1d4 or at least 1d3 of damage.

Under dnd improvised weapon rules it'd be 1d3, but you could argue a sack full of metal coins would function as a sap or morning star.

[Putnam]

Nobody follows all generalizations/stereotypes. That doesn't invalidate them either.

[Scelly9]

Men like big bouncy breasts, being a coolest muthafucka around, blasting off heads, and throwing money at hookers.

Either I'm not a man, or your statements are a little too generalized.

It's okay if you like flat chested women, But who doesn't like violence?

Approximately 15% of my friends.

[Megaman]

Like the way many people make the assumption that Muslims are terrorists, a perfectly reasonable person who is not exposed to evidence suggesting otherwise would also believe such a thing very willingly.

No, that is not a reasonable person.

Why not? If you grew up with nothing to disprove a notion, and then found nothing to disprove it, it would be seen as a completely reasonable view. However, thanks to the internet, and a larger amount of information available to the average person today, it's very easy to find counter evidence to the belief that, say, all Muslims are terrorists. All that has to be done is to prevent 'evidence' that the assumption is wrong from gaining credibility, and to create more that propose rational thinking. The boy that thinks that indeed all Muslims are terrorists may have the inevitable epiphany on how the way of thinking he has developed is flawed faster. How do you think the young boys in Nazi Germany who joined the Hitler Youth movement were so fanatical about Adolph Hitler's cause? He was all they knew, not that they have some kind of deficiency.

I think you're conflating "normal" with "reasonable." A normal person quote often uses logical fallacies aplenty. A reasonable person does not.

We don't have shit like racism due to people being reasonable. We have those things due to people being normal and instinctual.

How do you think things such as the civil rights movement appeared? People with the reasonable view of tolerance provided the normal person who held the unreasonable view of prejudice with evidence against such a thing, which resulted in the reasonable view of tolerance becoming more common. Thus, making reasonable people normal.