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Author Topic: When Kickstarter goes wrong?  (Read 680776 times)

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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1410 on: July 17, 2012, 11:33:30 pm »

I think this is one of the weakness of the crowd source funding model. The donators dont have to many recourse they can take if they feel they have been wronged.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1411 on: July 18, 2012, 12:38:31 am »

Doesn't the 'class' part of class action form itself when it lists everyone who invests in the project?
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1412 on: July 18, 2012, 01:04:17 am »

Yes, but the actual legal grounds for forming a suit are what is in question.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1413 on: July 18, 2012, 01:29:29 am »

Did anyone post the kickstarter where this woman was planning on making a board game, got about seven thousand dollars, and after a year said she couldn't finish it because the sun told her not to? Seriously, that was fucking hilarious to read her updates.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1414 on: July 18, 2012, 02:18:58 am »

Yea, we were just discussing that one. Even saw her nude pict.

And she was having printing issues, but the sun was upset at her board game because it resemble to much of reality.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1415 on: July 18, 2012, 02:42:32 am »

So Gabe posted this about the kickstarter. Its apparently not about an 'ad-free PA'

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2012/07/16/strip-search

The first thing it says is that its "isn't just about an ad free PA."
You really, really didn't properly convey what was said in that article.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1416 on: July 18, 2012, 03:17:38 am »

So Gabe posted this about the kickstarter. Its apparently not about an 'ad-free PA'

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2012/07/16/strip-search

The first thing it says is that its "isn't just about an ad free PA."
You really, really didn't properly convey what was said in that article.
I wasn't trying to summarize the article, just to point out that he mentioned it. What exactly is your beef here? I'm not a new aggregation service obliged to provide you with a summary, I was just sharing a link.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1417 on: July 18, 2012, 03:56:56 am »

So Gabe posted this about the kickstarter. Its apparently not about an 'ad-free PA'

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2012/07/16/strip-search

The first thing it says is that its "isn't just about an ad free PA."
You really, really didn't properly convey what was said in that article.
I wasn't trying to summarize the article, just to point out that he mentioned it. What exactly is your beef here? I'm not a new aggregation service obliged to provide you with a summary, I was just sharing a link.

You omitted a very important word that makes the context and meaning of the sentence completely different.

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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1418 on: July 18, 2012, 07:43:12 am »

So Gabe posted this about the kickstarter. Its apparently not about an 'ad-free PA'

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2012/07/16/strip-search

The first thing it says is that its "isn't just about an ad free PA."
You really, really didn't properly convey what was said in that article.
I wasn't trying to summarize the article, just to point out that he mentioned it. What exactly is your beef here? I'm not a new aggregation service obliged to provide you with a summary, I was just sharing a link.

You omitted a very important word that makes the context and meaning of the sentence completely different.

Starts with a J, ends with a T and has an US in the middle.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1419 on: July 18, 2012, 07:48:52 am »

You people are silly. Next time I'll just provide the link by itself, or not at all.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1420 on: July 18, 2012, 08:08:02 am »

So Gabe posted this about the kickstarter. Its apparently not about an 'ad-free PA'

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2012/07/16/strip-search

The first thing it says is that its "isn't just about an ad free PA."
You really, really didn't properly convey what was said in that article.
I wasn't trying to summarize the article, just to point out that he mentioned it. What exactly is your beef here? I'm not a new aggregation service obliged to provide you with a summary, I was just sharing a link.

You omitted a very important word that makes the context and meaning of the sentence completely different.

Starts with a J, ends with a T and has an US in the middle.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1421 on: July 18, 2012, 09:55:28 am »

wtf really?..... REALLY?
and lawsuits wouldn't come from this how?
Because it is a donation, not a purchase. Though I'll let my previous posts do the describing of it; no need to restate it again. :)
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104759.msg3269078#msg3269078
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104759.msg3274752#msg3274752
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1422 on: July 18, 2012, 10:48:08 am »

wtf really?..... REALLY?
and lawsuits wouldn't come from this how?
Because it is a donation, not a purchase. Though I'll let my previous posts do the describing of it; no need to restate it again. :)
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104759.msg3269078#msg3269078
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104759.msg3274752#msg3274752

Soliciting 'donations' by fraud in still fraud. Plus, you can pretty much sue anyone for anything.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1423 on: July 18, 2012, 11:00:30 am »

Soliciting 'donations' by fraud in still fraud. Plus, you can pretty much sue anyone for anything.

Pretty much.
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Re: When Kickstarter goes wrong?
« Reply #1424 on: July 18, 2012, 10:35:41 pm »

Are you (a hypothetical investor on kickstarter) engaging in a contract for the service or good, or are you possibly donating to a company with the possibility of both the project and the rewards being delivered?

It's pretty cut and dry, imo.  If it's not, kickstarter is probably liable and they would want to avoid that.  Either the kickstarter is legally obligated to deliver or it isn't.  If it isn't, then I doubt there's an easy case for fraud.  I'm sure you can dig something up in US law that would let you litigate, but that can be said of everything. 
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